TVR653X
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mep12345

Original Poster:

2,061 posts

230 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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After months of silence see this

Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Posting on TVRCC S model forum as kingfisher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Monday 18th October 2010
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Apparently it started ok when it reached the garage.

Hot starting problem.

Any ideas for your fellow S owner ?

I'd be happy to pass them on. smile

Really nice car by the way.

Bobhon

1,059 posts

208 months

Tuesday 19th October 2010
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Oh the times I have been sat at the side of the road trying to re-start my hot S2. Turn the key and only get a faint click from the starter motor area as the solenoid struggles to try to pull in.

Much seen with the bonnet raised attempting to cool down the starter motor to get it to start. Usually a quick bump start does the trick.

I followed Philpot's lead and fitted an ordinary 12 volt relay into the starter solenoid wire. Wired so that the solenoid wire just activates the 12 volt relay coil to switch a main 12v feed (from the starter main connection) onto the starter solenoid.

I could sketch out a wiring diagram if this isn't clear enough?

The theory behind this fix is that the 'old' cable carrying the current to the starter solenoid has probably degraded over the years. It's a long run of cable from the ignition switch all the way to the starter solenoid.
Add to this the fact that the resistance of a wire increases as it gets hot then you have too much resistance in the system to pull the solenoid in.

I haven't experienced a hot start issue since. Mike (Philpot) took his S on the recent Euro Trip (lucky beggar) and I don't think that he had any hot start problems either? I'm sure he'll be along in a minute to tell more.

In an earlier attempt to fix this problem I brought a new starter motor for £120 and guess what. It didn't fix the problem.

HTH

Bob

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Tuesday 19th October 2010
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Thanks.
That is a possibility.

The only time my old red 390 let me down turned out to be a dodgy earth strap, but with that there wasn't even a 'click', just totally dead.

I'll pass that along...cheers. thumbup

Bobhon

1,059 posts

208 months

Tuesday 19th October 2010
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Graham, I've posted a copy of my suggestion onto the TVRCC S Forum and Kingfisher picked it up. Hopefully it'll do the trick for him.

Bob

DJ8226

401 posts

202 months

Tuesday 19th October 2010
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Mark I am intrigued whats the story behind TVR653X. Not sure but think I have spotted this car round the Clifton moor area of York although I maybe mixing it up with another one. Yours intrigued - Damon

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Tuesday 19th October 2010
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That's because the owner lives in York, as do I.

The car has recently been fully polybushed, gaz golds all round, rear disc conversion + new fronts too, new radiator and swirlpot, various other bits and bobs.

I know all this because I helped out...pictured below. hehe




Just about to have a body-off full re-build as part of the owner's college course.

He's a real TVR enthusiast. smile

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Tuesday 19th October 2010
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Bobhon said:
Graham, I've posted a copy of my suggestion onto the TVRCC S Forum and Kingfisher picked it up. Hopefully it'll do the trick for him.

Bob
Cheers mate. thumbup

DJ8226

401 posts

202 months

Wednesday 20th October 2010
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Hi Graham thanks for that I love to see pics of people work, it inspires me with my own S3 but not to the point of a body off plus well not yet.... Would be great to meet up sometime (I only do dry runs though)Where are you in York? I am in Market Weighton so not too far away.

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th October 2010
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Hi.
I'm in York...not far from Clifton Moor.

Sadly I sold my last TVR earlier this year, but thinking about a V8S...hence my popping in here. smile

mep12345

Original Poster:

2,061 posts

230 months

Wednesday 20th October 2010
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DJ8226 said:
Mark I am intrigued whats the story behind TVR653X. Not sure but think I have spotted this car round the Clifton moor area of York although I maybe mixing it up with another one. Yours intrigued - Damon
I don't know the story other than up until Christmas time he used to post several times a day and most of us gave him advice - then all went quiet and I found the film when searching through youtube for "TVR", just thought it would explain the silence, but then saw it had caused some issues on the TVRCC forum, which was not my intent.

As I hope you are all aware the only thing I try and stir is the swirl pot or expansion tank hornets nest hehe

Mark

phillpot

17,510 posts

212 months

Wednesday 20th October 2010
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Can you fcensoredg believe this guy ?

All the help and advise he was offered day after day (and maybe perhaps a little micky taking) then he turns round and says the TVRCC forum is a much friendlier and helpful place than PH !

Who does he think is helping him "over there" ? exactly the same people who were trying to help him on here.


dbv8

8,676 posts

249 months

Wednesday 20th October 2010
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Hes only a youg lad. Obviously misunderstood some of the 'banter' over here on the dark side.

TVRCC is a friendlier place but also very boring with it.
Personaly i like all the knobs on here and am proud to be one.

DJ8226

401 posts

202 months

Wednesday 20th October 2010
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Oh dear clearly some bad blood on this particular member. I'm on the fence as before my time and I am not out to start picking at an old wound! I was just intrigued due to me spotting this motor a few months back.

Edited by DJ8226 on Wednesday 20th October 21:33

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th October 2010
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Good idea...let's you and me stay on the fence. I missed the beetching too.

None of that in the Wedge section I'll have you know. biggrin

Gerald-TVR

4,896 posts

226 months

Wednesday 20th October 2010
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I have tried to stay out of this but I think Kingfisher should take a step back and consider who has been helping him so far. Hehave had endless advice here and now is just knocking that help. There is a limitw.

BTW I dont appreciate that that someone is sharing TVRCC membership. I pay for my own and so should you!!!!

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

233 months

Wednesday 20th October 2010
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To be honest if he's been posting outside the TVR forums on PH there's every likelyhood he's been ripped to bits on some of them - I have ventured there occasionally and some of them really are a Lion's Den.
The TVRCC forums are a bit of a church in comparison.

I can't be bothered to read the history - but if he's a young lad than personally I say leave him alone and give him some encouragement - if he's young it's his job to be annoying to us old farts and giving us something to moan about hehe

He doesn't know he's been born eh?

PS - one of the best things I've ever seen - a car rear window sticker

'Employ a Teenager while they still know everything'

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th October 2010
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Words of wisdom...well said. clap


mep12345

Original Poster:

2,061 posts

230 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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Wish I hadn't posted the clip now getmecoat

Chris, +1 from me for your comments

Edited by mep12345 on Thursday 21st October 17:14