4 litre Cologne engine

[Barkychoc]

Its got to be getting to the point now where you can buy a whole bloody car for the engine!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-EXPLORER-AUTO-1-YEAR-MO...

Someone has to have a go at sticking one of these in sometime...

[LamboV8S]

Or wait for a Windsor 5.0 V8 version to come along!

[mikel003003]

trouble is apparently those 4 liter engines are not so good? thought about it but was put off by nightmare storys off slack cam chains and timing issues. wouldnt it be great though??? 4 liter and 220 bhp

[Alan Kee]

I'm pretty sure dave walker at emerald has mapped an S with a 4 litre v6 in it.

[grahamw48]

mikel003003 said:

trouble is apparently those 4 liter engines are not so good? thought about it but was put off by nightmare storys off slack cam chains and timing issues. wouldnt it be great though??? 4 liter and 220 bhp

And what's the point when a lighter 4 litre RV8 will give you more power ?...or of course the 5 litre Ford V8.

[phillpot]

grahamw48 said:

And what's the point when a lighter 4 litre RV8 will give you more power ?...or of course the 5 litre Ford V8.

Maybe because the 4 litre V6 will fit in a 2.9 chassis and mate up to Ford gearbox ?

And "just because it would be different"

[fatjon]

The later 4 litre explorer engine (2001>) had mods that fixed the timing chain problems. Can be retro fitted for about £500 or £600. Got an old explorer with a low mileage engine with all the mods done. It's very reliable and loads or grunt low down. Their are 2 versions of the engine. The older one was push rods and very much a cologne with a long throw crank and pistons like the QE2. Later ones (96 on) were OHC with very different heads and front and rear timing chains. Could be quite hard to get a later one in a smaller car as it has a lot more bulk on top and at the rear of the block/head.

[grahamw48]

phillpot said:

grahamw48 said:

And what's the point when a lighter 4 litre RV8 will give you more power ?...or of course the 5 litre Ford V8.

Maybe because the 4 litre V6 will fit in a 2.9 chassis and mate up to Ford gearbox ?

And "just because it would be different"

Well thanks for the friendly response.

[mikel003003]

v8 is great but i have a soft spot for the cologne

[Graham]

mikel003003 said:

but i have a soft spot for the cologne

I think you'd need to, after racing one for 10 years the cologne is a useless motor only good for use as a boat anchor... :-) imho... you can get more powere out of the older essex. the later 2.9 version is quite a bit better than the 2.8 mind.

One of the racers did have a hybrid built with some of the 4ltr parts but it never worked well.

im playing with a 2.9 cossy at the moment which is a derivative of the cologne but seems much better.

G

[phillpot]

Graham said:

after racing one for 10 years the cologne is a useless motor only good for use as a boat anchor...

Begs the question, why did you persevere for 10 years if so unimpressed ?????

[mikel003003]

Im not sure what to say ? good luck with the cossie and probably best not talk to the 280 Tasmin boys