hubble, bubble etc........
hubble, bubble etc........
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mikeo

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86 posts

278 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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Help! The sun's shining so the S3 got a good clean and polish and a good few runs over the weekend - no problem. Took her into work today and all was well till a colleague asked what the puddle was under my car. The puddle turned out to be a mixture of water and anti-freeze and had come from the expansion tank overflow. Everything is fine driving along - temperature gauge reads normal - even sitting in traffic jams, no problem. It's only when I switch off the engine that it decides to syphon out approx 2 pints of liquid.

I have a plain cap on the expansion tank and a 13lb cap (fitted by Leebee at the last service) on the swirl tank - Any suggestions please?

Roy C

4,209 posts

307 months

Tuesday 18th May 2004
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Are you over-filling the expansion tank?
Don't rely on the Ford markings on the side.

Some 2.9 S's run with almost no water in the expansion tank, but mine has about an inch in the bottom when cold. If I fill it up to the (Ford) level, it will chuck the rest out on expansion!

shnozz

30,071 posts

294 months

Tuesday 18th May 2004
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mine used to run with no water at all in the expansion tank. If I tried filling the swirl tank to the "inch from the top" thats recommended it would only spew it out and found its natural level about 4 inches from the top. Noticed this is also the same level of a couple of other S's that I have poked around.

WildfireS3

9,919 posts

275 months

Tuesday 18th May 2004
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Mine did this a while back. Make sure the pipe that connects the expansion tank to the swirl tank is not blocked.

Mine was actually blocked in the bottom of the expansion tank. Roughly the same situation. Dirving, car gets hot and when I stop big puddle under the car.

M@H

11,298 posts

295 months

Tuesday 18th May 2004
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shnozz said:
mine used to run with no water at all in the expansion tank. If I tried filling the swirl tank to the "inch from the top" thats recommended it would only spew it out and found its natural level about 4 inches from the top. Noticed this is also the same level of a couple of other S's that I have poked around.



..seem to remember my old S was the same... about 4-5" down..?

mikeo

Original Poster:

86 posts

278 months

Tuesday 18th May 2004
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Thanks guys. Just dont understand why it's suddenly just started doing it as I hadn't topped it up or anything. Nice to know it's not just me though.

tubbystu

3,846 posts

283 months

Tuesday 18th May 2004
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mikeo said:
Thanks guys. Just dont understand why it's suddenly just started doing it as I hadn't topped it up or anything. Nice to know it's not just me though.



My V8S used to do similiar, but since my radiator was re-cored it hasn't done it once. Expansion tank still runs nearly empty though.

It COULD be your rad is starting to go. Mine ran for a couple of years dumping some fluid if it got warm after a run. Regularly check your water levels and carry a gallon of water just in case - particularly if you get stuck in a jam this time of year. I learnt the hard way Until some kind bloke in a sierra pulled over, complimented on the car and gave me a gallon of water he just happened to have in his boot because his water pump was leaking kind bloke

Just a word of warning, it might not be rad based but ...........

Stuart

bridgdav

4,805 posts

271 months

Wednesday 19th May 2004
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Quite amusing last night....

Went to the Berkshire region meet - Website photocall...

All the cars nicely polished....I waited for some other photo's to be taken - engine getting warmer...


My turn...



Expansion tank decided to blow coolant all over the floor...

Now what is it I do...?

Podie

46,647 posts

298 months

Wednesday 19th May 2004
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M@H said:

shnozz said:
mine used to run with no water at all in the expansion tank. If I tried filling the swirl tank to the "inch from the top" thats recommended it would only spew it out and found its natural level about 4 inches from the top. Noticed this is also the same level of a couple of other S's that I have poked around.




..seem to remember my old S was the same... about 4-5" down..?


Mine does this...

mikeo

Original Poster:

86 posts

278 months

Wednesday 19th May 2004
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Trouble is, I haven't filled it up for 3 days now and it's still spewing water out. A bit worried there wont be any left

Le TVR

3,097 posts

274 months

Wednesday 19th May 2004
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For those with pressure cap on swirl tank:


Never completely understood what was happening but I think it was sediment from the expansion tank being sucked back into the swirl tank and getting trapped in the reverse valve in the pressure cap.

Whenever this has happened I've disconnected the swirl - expansion tank tube and washed all the cr@p out. Then clean out between the reverse valve and rubber seal on the pressure cap. Refill swirl tank to MAX. You can check if the cap is now sealing by squeezing one of the larger hoses to see if the system pressurises (or just leaks straight back in the expansion tank).

After said treatment the problem disappears (for several months.....)

B16 RFF

883 posts

290 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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mikeo said:
Trouble is, I haven't filled it up for 3 days now and it's still spewing water out. A bit worried there wont be any left



Mike, Did you ever get to the bottom of this?
Memory is fading, but I think the hoses are configured so that the plain cap goes on the swirl tank, and the pressure cap goes on the plastic tank.
Had a long (and sometimes heated) discussion on the yahoo egroup about this very subject a couple of years ago.
Anyway, try swapping the caps over and see what happens. (Unless of course Leebee has changed the hoses as well).

Paul. (Previous owner of Mike's car)

>> Edited by B16 RFF on Friday 2nd July 19:06