Are TVRs really that fragile?
Are TVRs really that fragile?
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Cold_Stu

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1,031 posts

253 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Friends

Rather than post in TVR section and get 20 pages of opinion and abuse, I though I would ask the question in the safe paddling pool of the Midlands forum ....

Are TVRs really that fragile? Everyone I talk to that has one seems to have had engine rebuilds, gearbox problems and other expensive issues at relatively low mileages.

I have been toying with the idea of getting one, and having run classics for years I don't believe I am unrealistic in my expectation of reliability (stuff breaks).

But am I getting an warped view? Are they really that unreliable and expensive?

Your thoughts?

oggs

8,815 posts

276 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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What model of TVR?? smile

Cold_Stu

Original Poster:

1,031 posts

253 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Not the early ford stuff, the 90s & 00s V8 and 6 powered cars

HRG

72,863 posts

261 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Some of us Tiv owners are in the Midlands yo know wink

RV8 is plenty strong enough, the basic design wouldn't have survived forty odd years if it was a Prima Donna IMO.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

270 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Buy on condition, not mileage. Also, buy the one that "speaks" to you. You'll know it when you see it.

oggs

8,815 posts

276 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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HRG said:
Some of us Tiv owners are in the Midlands yo know wink
whistlewink

HRG said:
RV8 is plenty strong enough, the basic design wouldn't have survived forty odd years if it was a Prima Donna IMO.
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dumbfunk

1,727 posts

306 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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I've had two Griffiths over 9 years and covered 25k miles in a 400 and over 40k miles in my current 500. In that time I've been on a trailer twice for a faulty fuel regulator and a faulty ignition coil, neither engine was ever opened, gearboxes were perfect, and I had one clutch, a wheel bearing and a diff refurb.

My experience is to buy on condition alone, look for something that has been properly used and an owner that has maintained the car without cutting corners.

Despite thinking about it a hundred times and much to my own disgust, I'm not sure I would ever consider owning a Speed6 engined car.


dumbfunk

cirvy

2,330 posts

285 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Cold_Stu said:
Are TVRs really that fragile?

Your thoughts?
It's vital that you buy the right one in the first place, & then look after it. I did, & i've had over 6 1/2 years of totally reliable service, done loads of trackdays & had loads of fun. Just choose carefully, biggrin

Will OT

125 posts

271 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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I had a tuscan speed 6 for about 2 years a while back. At first i used it as a daily drive and it never missed a beat. Twitchy to drive in my opinion and went very light at high speed, again in my opinion. Only after i stopped using it daily did i start having problems, it was mainly electrical. the speedo used to go mad, and tvr had run out of parts to fix it. So in summary I loved it, it looked amazing and got kids taking photos of it out the back of their car on motorways. People say they are expensive to run, but so can any car. My mini jcw MOT just cost me £1000. Im not sure of the prices now, but say 18k, wow what a car for the money. There is nothing else on the market for that money that looks like a tvr, again in my opinion.

900T-R

20,406 posts

279 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Bought an RV8 powered one, sorted it (which did cost a lot of money in relation to the original purchase price but in for a penny, in for a pound), ended up with the most reliable and untemperamental car I've owned privately. smile result I'd say. thumbup

900T-R

20,406 posts

279 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Will OT said:
I had a tuscan speed 6 for about 2 years a while back. At first i used it as a daily drive and it never missed a beat. Twitchy to drive in my opinion and went very light at high speed, again in my opinion.
That was my impression of the Mk1 Tuscan, too - as they are basically the same underneath as any other Tivver (except the super quick steering rack) I'm positive it would greatly benefit form a suspension upgrade in conjunction with a darn good geo set up. smile

And indeed, you will want to drive it regularly if not daily, to keep it well exercised and happy. No hardship I'd say (except in the deepest of winter maybe) driving .

Edited by 900T-R on Tuesday 10th February 15:16

Slacey

1,113 posts

236 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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RV8 powered Griffith here, 2 1/2 years owned and never let me down. Has 72k on the clock now as well. As has been said above, the RV8's are a good bet if in good condition, S6 cars are great bits of kit but ensure you can manage the rebuild costs should it ever happen.

sone

4,611 posts

260 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Had a few tivs myself. 2 x Cerb 4.2 and 4.5 also a Griff 500. My Griff was eight years old with only 7000 miles on the clock when I bought it. Turned out to be a nightmare continually overheating spent 100's sorting it out, goes to show that the garage ornaments aren't neccesarily the ones to have.
Cerbs weren't to bad 4.2 needed a slave cylinder on the clutch (£600) the 4.5 never gave me a problem apart from the ususal flat batteries that come with fibreglass cars.
Now TVR power are back on the scene I'd be inclined to buy a cheapish Tuscan with high miles, but in the right condition and get a new engine when needed with the warranty they offer.

Mystic Slippers

406 posts

225 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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My 1987 wedge has been very reliable-but its only the 3.5 v8 which is a lazy understressed lump and will go on forever.
The bigger engined v8 can suffer with overheating if not maintained correctly.
Check the camshaft has been replaced on higher mileage rv8`s also exhaust manifolds can corrode (you can nget stainless ones which is a big bonus)
The clutch is pretty expensive to replace due to the work envolved.
The main problems that can crop up as with all plasic cars is normally dodgy electrics (poor earths etc)
By an enthusiast maintained car and you will find all the niggles have been sorted along with useful upgrades.
As mentioned above ,i would avoid the speed six engined cars unless you have a few grand set aside for a rebuild (once done a few companies offer a proper warranty on their rebuilt engines)

HTH

esso

1,849 posts

239 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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If you sit there with the idea of "toying of buying a TVR",you will never buy one!!! You either want one or you don`t,bite the bullit & get one-nothing will put a bigger smile on your face,it will probably cost a few quid to keep it on the road..............but its well worth it!

YKB

824 posts

233 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Mystic Slippers said:
i would avoid the speed six engined cars unless you have a few grand set aside for a rebuild
Who in their right mind would buy one of those Speed Six cars........... whistlelaugh

V8 Animal

6,015 posts

232 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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YKB said:
Mystic Slippers said:
i would avoid the speed six engined cars unless you have a few grand set aside for a rebuild
Who in their right mind would buy one of those Speed Six cars........... whistlelaugh
Err not mehehe

raceboy

13,617 posts

302 months

Thursday 12th February 2009
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Long term Chimaera owner here. byebye
Great fun, I've owned mine for nearly 10 years now, and it's a bit 'triggers broom' and now it's a second car garage queen that just gets used spirtedly on nice sunny days it's costing peanuts to run.
Obviously after now saying that the next serive/MOT is going to rape mepaperbag

(steven)

478 posts

236 months

Friday 13th February 2009
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Mystic Slippers said:
i would avoid the speed six engined cars unless you have a few grand set aside for a rebuild
...for a rebuild or four. Ex flat mate has had a tuscan for a few years and is on his fourth engine rebuild. Big ends let go the first time, then the top end needed a rebuild, then it dropped a valve and most recently piston number 6 and the block disintegrated.

A truly epic car but don't fool yourself into thinking they are easy or cheap to live with.

(Edited for poor use of quotes)

Edited by (steven) on Saturday 14th February 15:37

YKB

824 posts

233 months

Friday 13th February 2009
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[quote=(steven)]
YKB said:
Mystic Slippers said:
i would avoid the speed six engined cars unless you have a few grand set aside for a rebuild
...for a rebuild or four. Ex flat mate has had a tuscan for a few years and is on his fourth engine rebuild. Big ends let go the first time, then the top end needed a rebuild, then it dropped a valve and most recently piston number 6 and the block disintegrated.

A truly epic car but don't fool yourself into thinking they are easy or cheap to live with.

Please don't write in the 'quote' it makes it look like I said something I didn't!

YKB (who's neither easy or cheap!)