Some information needed about midlands!
Discussion
Good morning everybody, another bloody guest worker writhing hear, yeah that's it coming to birmingham area to work some crap of a job, to pay my depths in nothern europe, so sorry for taking all your money! 
Well anyway, i wan't to join the sceen, so things i want to know:
1)racing/drifting/draging - rentable/not - rentable tracks/abandon airfields and basic automotive carnage spots in midland?
2)Is there a meaning in UK "learners license", if there is - can a learner drive a normal car (not 6pedals) , with some one in the front pasanger's seat, with a sertain level of experience (years)on public roads?
3)Does a track spec car "street illigal" need to be (MOT'ED,insured) to be alowed on gp/carting tracks or what she has to have?, i mean not for comletition just for fun!
4)What, a person who doesn't have a drivers license has to do to be allowed on track? For examle in my country if it is a closed field - i mean something like a track - than you don't have to have a drivers license, you just put on an "L" badge,just in case!
Well anyway, i wan't to join the sceen, so things i want to know:
1)racing/drifting/draging - rentable/not - rentable tracks/abandon airfields and basic automotive carnage spots in midland?
2)Is there a meaning in UK "learners license", if there is - can a learner drive a normal car (not 6pedals)
, with some one in the front pasanger's seat, with a sertain level of experience (years)on public roads?3)Does a track spec car "street illigal" need to be (MOT'ED,insured) to be alowed on gp/carting tracks or what she has to have?, i mean not for comletition just for fun!
4)What, a person who doesn't have a drivers license has to do to be allowed on track? For examle in my country if it is a closed field - i mean something like a track - than you don't have to have a drivers license, you just put on an "L" badge,just in case!
Edited by madkiller on Thursday 2nd April 11:47
Edited by madkiller on Thursday 2nd April 12:43
Prof Beard said:
Well - I'm here!
Sadly, if I'm honest I don't the answers to your questions. "Real" motorsport requires special licences etc and cars are inspected before competition.
OK mate, i see u are a lazy one, so u don't even read the post fully, Sadly, if I'm honest I don't the answers to your questions. "Real" motorsport requires special licences etc and cars are inspected before competition.
I'dont know about real motorsport for me yet, but what i mean is practice - for exapmle - drifting! In my country i just come to a track, pay 10 pounds, and im of to the track for half an hour, if there nothing in there schedule of comletitions! this is on a small carting track! But on a gp track, ofcource only scheduled
track day's and abit more expensive!
I mean for practise - i have to get special license and inpection each time or what?
My friend - you just wrote a useles post, congratulations your spam skills are perfect!And your grammar is crap!
Edited by madkiller on Thursday 2nd April 12:28
Edited by madkiller on Thursday 2nd April 12:40
madkiller said:
Balmoral Green said:
Prof was only being pleasant and polite in answering your post, that you complained hadn't had a prompt reply. And you reply like that? Pathetic, you don't actually deserve any help in this matter from anyone, even if they could help.
FFS!
OK I'm sorry for being so rude. Maybe it's my national mentality, maybe my mood - becouse i didn't sleep for 24 hrs now. But i'm realy sorry ok. I just remembered thas english peaple ar actualy very polite! And i'm a rude comunist pig, ok maybe i am! And did't mean to offend anyone!FFS!
I just realy didn't think that he is being pleasan't and polite, but the oposite - with something like "this young lad is a stupid imigrant and he doesn't understand anything about motorsport, and writes a bunch of bs!"
But im educaded so - here in northen europe, "don't trust anyone" you know.
So we are good or what?
Edited by madkiller on Thursday 2nd April 13:18
madkiller said:
Prof Beard said:
Well - I'm here!
Sadly, if I'm honest I don't the answers to your questions. "Real" motorsport requires special licences etc and cars are inspected before competition.
OK mate, i see u are a lazy one, so u don't even read the post fully, Sadly, if I'm honest I don't the answers to your questions. "Real" motorsport requires special licences etc and cars are inspected before competition.
I'dont know about real motorsport for me yet, but what i mean is practice - for exapmle - drifting! In my country i just come to a track, pay 10 pounds, and im of to the track for half an hour, if there nothing in there schedule of comletitions! this is on a small carting track! But on a gp track, ofcource only scheduled
track day's and abit more expensive!
I mean for practise - i have to get special license and inpection each time or what?
My friend - you just wrote a useles post, congratulations your spam skills are perfect!And your grammar is crap!
Edited by madkiller on Thursday 2nd April 12:28
Edited by madkiller on Thursday 2nd April 12:40
It wasn't really clear to me what sort of thing you were actually looking to do. I was TRYING to be friendly and helpful.
(I'm not impressed by your responses)
Prof Beard said:
madkiller said:
Prof Beard said:
Well - I'm here!
Sadly, if I'm honest I don't the answers to your questions. "Real" motorsport requires special licences etc and cars are inspected before competition.
OK mate, i see u are a lazy one, so u don't even read the post fully, Sadly, if I'm honest I don't the answers to your questions. "Real" motorsport requires special licences etc and cars are inspected before competition.
I'dont know about real motorsport for me yet, but what i mean is practice - for exapmle - drifting! In my country i just come to a track, pay 10 pounds, and im of to the track for half an hour, if there nothing in there schedule of comletitions! this is on a small carting track! But on a gp track, ofcource only scheduled
track day's and abit more expensive!
I mean for practise - i have to get special license and inpection each time or what?
My friend - you just wrote a useles post, congratulations your spam skills are perfect!And your grammar is crap!
Edited by madkiller on Thursday 2nd April 12:28
Edited by madkiller on Thursday 2nd April 12:40
It wasn't really clear to me what sort of thing you were actually looking to do. I was TRYING to be friendly and helpful.
(I'm not impressed by your responses)
madkiller said:
Prof Beard said:
madkiller said:
Prof Beard said:
Well - I'm here!
Sadly, if I'm honest I don't the answers to your questions. "Real" motorsport requires special licences etc and cars are inspected before competition.
OK mate, i see u are a lazy one, so u don't even read the post fully, Sadly, if I'm honest I don't the answers to your questions. "Real" motorsport requires special licences etc and cars are inspected before competition.
I'dont know about real motorsport for me yet, but what i mean is practice - for exapmle - drifting! In my country i just come to a track, pay 10 pounds, and im of to the track for half an hour, if there nothing in there schedule of comletitions! this is on a small carting track! But on a gp track, ofcource only scheduled
track day's and abit more expensive!
I mean for practise - i have to get special license and inpection each time or what?
My friend - you just wrote a useles post, congratulations your spam skills are perfect!And your grammar is crap!
Edited by madkiller on Thursday 2nd April 12:28
Edited by madkiller on Thursday 2nd April 12:40
It wasn't really clear to me what sort of thing you were actually looking to do. I was TRYING to be friendly and helpful.
(I'm not impressed by your responses)
1. I think the main drifting venue is at santa pod in poddington (couple of hours from birmingham), or there is a drift circuit at oulton park in cheshire.
2. If you have no license you can drive as a learner with someone else in the pax seat details will be on the DVLA website. You will need to apply for a provisional license and be insured on that car though which can be costly.
3. It needn't necessarily be road legal but the organisers of the day could not allow you on with no refund if they thought your car was unsafe. If you want to tow a car you need to take an additional driving test.
4. You will need a normal road driving license (uk or otherwise) for any trackday in the uk unless you have a race license (and even then you will probably need to be accompanied by an instructor). Also a few trackday venues have introduced new rules this year meaning that you have to be 18+. You may be, but you do seem to be asking about learner licenses so I dunno.
2. If you have no license you can drive as a learner with someone else in the pax seat details will be on the DVLA website. You will need to apply for a provisional license and be insured on that car though which can be costly.
3. It needn't necessarily be road legal but the organisers of the day could not allow you on with no refund if they thought your car was unsafe. If you want to tow a car you need to take an additional driving test.
4. You will need a normal road driving license (uk or otherwise) for any trackday in the uk unless you have a race license (and even then you will probably need to be accompanied by an instructor). Also a few trackday venues have introduced new rules this year meaning that you have to be 18+. You may be, but you do seem to be asking about learner licenses so I dunno.
Well, im kind of not intrested in competitive stuff right now!
Driftng is what im intrested in, but i have to get the feel of a rwd car on the limit, becouse i almoust never drove one!
So my idea was: to build a light wheight drift car, such as bmw e30 318is (strip the interiour out,put a rollcage,bucket seat with 6point harness, suspension.lsd ...ect. An practice just for my own good and fun!
So if it were in my country , i would do so:
Pass a commision and get a sports license for the car! So it only could be driven on track, and i dont have to pay road taxes and insurance for it, and i could drive it out of the copletition as much as i like, but if i wan't to participate in local drifting championship i have to pass the special license, to be ollowed to compete!
So the question is, how this works in uk? What to do? Don't tell me about that drivers license i'm not passing that! :P
Driftng is what im intrested in, but i have to get the feel of a rwd car on the limit, becouse i almoust never drove one!
So my idea was: to build a light wheight drift car, such as bmw e30 318is (strip the interiour out,put a rollcage,bucket seat with 6point harness, suspension.lsd ...ect. An practice just for my own good and fun!
So if it were in my country , i would do so:
Pass a commision and get a sports license for the car! So it only could be driven on track, and i dont have to pay road taxes and insurance for it, and i could drive it out of the copletition as much as i like, but if i wan't to participate in local drifting championship i have to pass the special license, to be ollowed to compete!
So the question is, how this works in uk? What to do? Don't tell me about that drivers license i'm not passing that! :P
madkiller said:
NeilC said:
1. I think the main drifting venue is at santa pod in poddington (couple of hours from birmingham), or there is a drift circuit at oulton park in cheshire.
2. If you have no license you can drive as a learner with someone else in the pax seat details will be on the DVLA website. You will need to apply for a provisional license and be insured on that car though which can be costly.
3. It needn't necessarily be road legal but the organisers of the day could not allow you on with no refund if they thought your car was unsafe. If you want to tow a car you need to take an additional driving test.
4. You will need a normal road driving license (uk or otherwise) for any trackday in the uk unless you have a race license (and even then you will probably need to be accompanied by an instructor). Also a few trackday venues have introduced new rules this year meaning that you have to be 18+. You may be, but you do seem to be asking about learner licenses so I dunno.
I'm 21 years old now! And ive been trying to pass my license for 3 years now, im great at driving, but im too lazy to learn all the threory bs. But im car sick - so have to find other ways you know!2. If you have no license you can drive as a learner with someone else in the pax seat details will be on the DVLA website. You will need to apply for a provisional license and be insured on that car though which can be costly.
3. It needn't necessarily be road legal but the organisers of the day could not allow you on with no refund if they thought your car was unsafe. If you want to tow a car you need to take an additional driving test.
4. You will need a normal road driving license (uk or otherwise) for any trackday in the uk unless you have a race license (and even then you will probably need to be accompanied by an instructor). Also a few trackday venues have introduced new rules this year meaning that you have to be 18+. You may be, but you do seem to be asking about learner licenses so I dunno.
i'mean, what do you mean by passing an aditional driving test to tow in a car, towtrucks do that
i think i missunderstod you Hamilton has a race license - but they allow him to drive formula one alone becouse he has a drivers license or what?
Edited by madkiller on Thursday 2nd April 14:14
As i'm sure your aware unless your very handy with a set of spanners and have room to keep spares drifting can be very expensive. Our car seems to get through about 3 engines a year and you'll need a never ending supply of front and rear wings. You also have to drive like a saint as the police tend to pull you over a lot for looking dodgy. Lets face it you are quite likely to have bald tires and the cars tend to look a bit battered rather quickly.
I think realistically your going to have to pass a road driving test to do anything car related. I found the theory test quite easy, if your struggling with the practical try taking it elsewhere outside of birmingham city centre like Lichfield where there will be less traffic and more country roads.
Have you considered karting? RWD, you get to learn a lot of racecraft and keeps you fit.
I think realistically your going to have to pass a road driving test to do anything car related. I found the theory test quite easy, if your struggling with the practical try taking it elsewhere outside of birmingham city centre like Lichfield where there will be less traffic and more country roads.
Have you considered karting? RWD, you get to learn a lot of racecraft and keeps you fit.
CCM said:
I think you will find Lewis Hamilton, along with the vast majority of F1 drivers, do indeed have Full Driving Licences and own some rather nice cars.
Another motivational reply from a more expirienced person adding some more sence to passing full driving license Nope, doesn't bug me!
Me is getting racing license
Can someone please post a web page, somthing like "FIA of the uk"
where i can get some information about how to get a racing license. Thank youNeilC said:
As i'm sure your aware unless your very handy with a set of spanners and have room to keep spares drifting can be very expensive. Our car seems to get through about 3 engines a year and you'll need a never ending supply of front and rear wings. You also have to drive like a saint as the police tend to pull you over a lot for looking dodgy. Lets face it you are quite likely to have bald tires and the cars tend to look a bit battered rather quickly.
I think realistically your going to have to pass a road driving test to do anything car related. I found the theory test quite easy, if your struggling with the practical try taking it elsewhere outside of birmingham city centre like Lichfield where there will be less traffic and more country roads.
Have you considered karting? RWD, you get to learn a lot of racecraft and keeps you fit.
Im thankfull for your advice! You sure are trying very hard at drifting, if you are killing 3 engines a year, and having crashes oftenly, but im not that serious about that, if you had read my topic higher you noticed what car i have in mind, it's not very fast, it is small (i want a coupe),lite and well ballanced, and parts like wings are stacks at the scrapyards and engines 50paunds per peace! i will not have much time to drift and practice everyday, im will be lucky if i will manage to do that atleast twice a mounth, but i shurly will have a place to repair and maintain my car,if i will ever do this. And lets face it, i just want to fufil my dream to drift even IF its that rearly, but at these hours i will feel free!I think realistically your going to have to pass a road driving test to do anything car related. I found the theory test quite easy, if your struggling with the practical try taking it elsewhere outside of birmingham city centre like Lichfield where there will be less traffic and more country roads.
Have you considered karting? RWD, you get to learn a lot of racecraft and keeps you fit.
Edited by madkiller on Thursday 2nd April 14:52
Edited by madkiller on Thursday 2nd April 14:56
I may be missing something but how are you planning on transporting the car to and from the circuits? Hiring a car transporter including driver must be reasonably pricey over any real distance? Also without a road license you'd need an ARDS instructor in the car with you which is about £350 a day (if you can find one that would go out with someone without a road license).
I can't see how it would be economic compared to using one of oulton parks escorts or some other rally/caterham experience?
http://www.msauk.org/custom/asp/home/default.asp
I can't see how it would be economic compared to using one of oulton parks escorts or some other rally/caterham experience?
http://www.msauk.org/custom/asp/home/default.asp
Edited by NeilC on Thursday 2nd April 15:19
NeilC said:
I may be missing something but how are you planning on transporting the car to and from the circuits? Hiring a car transporter including driver must be reasonably pricey over any real distance? Also without a road license you'd need an ARDS instructor in the car with you which is about £350 a day (if you can find one that would go out with someone without a road license).
I can't see how it would be economic compared to using one of oulton parks escorts or some other rally/caterham experience?
http://www.msauk.org/custom/asp/home/default.asp
my god - stuuf is expencive in uk! :O Ok im maybe will consider passing a road license! And how much that could cost? in ukI can't see how it would be economic compared to using one of oulton parks escorts or some other rally/caterham experience?
http://www.msauk.org/custom/asp/home/default.asp
Edited by NeilC on Thursday 2nd April 15:19
Well you have to pass a Theory Test first which is probably about £30 to sit.
If you pass that, you then get to take the Practical which I think is £62.00.
You will of course need to take Driving Lessons probably, and they no doubt range from around £20 per hour. Obviously it depends on how good or how bad your driving is, on how much lessons overall will cost you.
If you pass that, you then get to take the Practical which I think is £62.00.
You will of course need to take Driving Lessons probably, and they no doubt range from around £20 per hour. Obviously it depends on how good or how bad your driving is, on how much lessons overall will cost you.
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