A64 `laybys` newly constructed.
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Can anyone explain the purpose of the `laybys` just after the
Highwayman cafe on the A64 - pretty narrow, paved with those blocks that let grass grow through. Took ages to put in place with a couple of awful tailbacks due to temporary traffic lights. They have a white marker pole at each end. Is it for the HA lorry to rest up in?
Highwayman cafe on the A64 - pretty narrow, paved with those blocks that let grass grow through. Took ages to put in place with a couple of awful tailbacks due to temporary traffic lights. They have a white marker pole at each end. Is it for the HA lorry to rest up in?
Had a closer look this morning & they can`t act as a slip into a farm/field entrance as the bollards & end of the paving stop a few yards before the farm tracks. It would be great if agricultural stuff actually took the opportunity to pull over now & then but it has become very rare.
Some company routinely runs tractors & trailers all the way from Crockey Hill on the A19 up to Malton - all on red diesel & low tax for a 50 mile round trip. They never pull over in any of the easy access laybys which are already there. One HGV behind them & it`s impossible to get past. I need a helicopter.
Some company routinely runs tractors & trailers all the way from Crockey Hill on the A19 up to Malton - all on red diesel & low tax for a 50 mile round trip. They never pull over in any of the easy access laybys which are already there. One HGV behind them & it`s impossible to get past. I need a helicopter.
gemini said:
I follwed a tractor at 20mph from Riccall to the A64 the other day
The arse had a queue 3 mile long behind him and never once pulled over!
I was boiling over.
Used to live in Riccall until recently, only 10 miles to work on the outskirts of York and the A19 is a awful road.... Used to go out the back way through Stillingfleet and Naburn... nice run!The arse had a queue 3 mile long behind him and never once pulled over!
I was boiling over.
Now live the other way near Driffield - twice the distance, but the same time to get to work on the A166!...
I saw these and wondered what they were. For those who haven't seen them they actually travel for ages - both side of the road (not the usual parking spots). They are not the usual plastic GRB blocks - much more solid - cast concrete from what I could see.
Bit weird. There have been a couple of fatalities - one youngster and one oap (say no more) - that I remember. The road is wide enough anyway so GRB is not a real need as far as I can see.
Did look like their was some construction stuff in a field on the western side - but is it just another NYCC / Highways waste of money scheme, rather than concentrating on essential core maintenance - some roads are looking very bad now. There could be big trouble in 12 months after another winter.
Bit weird. There have been a couple of fatalities - one youngster and one oap (say no more) - that I remember. The road is wide enough anyway so GRB is not a real need as far as I can see.
Did look like their was some construction stuff in a field on the western side - but is it just another NYCC / Highways waste of money scheme, rather than concentrating on essential core maintenance - some roads are looking very bad now. There could be big trouble in 12 months after another winter.
markmullen said:
They're parking spots for the HA's Incident Support Units.
Not these one's Mark given the size of the largest lorry they have - so close to the central parking in the roundabout as well (although they do know how to waste money). They do look like verge strengthening, but without a reason to install them in this area.
I did wonder if there was some construction work in the field on the western side of the road, or was it just connected with installing these ?
k all better to spend our money on. Actually spoke to a couple of the incident support blokes today. They reckoned it wasn`t especially for them, but was a refuge for breakdown recovery aimed at removing a solid holdup when someone breaks down at the peak `let`s go to the coast with the other 70% of West Yorkshire` times. One caravan stuck on this narrow bit & it`s back to Tadcaster. They had just coned them off - I think for the first mow of the season.
Be interesting to see if the queues they are meant to prevent are smaller than those that their construction caused.
Be interesting to see if the queues they are meant to prevent are smaller than those that their construction caused.
The whole section from the roundabout at York up to the Indian place 5 miles up the road all needs dualling. The bit near the garden centre, pub and chippy is a really bad accident black spot as people stop to turn right coming from Malton end. The road is so straight you can't see what's going on further up the road until you suddenly find the car in front anchoring on.
York Press Article said:
WHEN is a layby not a layby? When it's an 'area of hard standing,' created alongside the A64 near York as a refuge for broken down vehicles.
The Highways Agency has revealed that it spent more than a quarter of a million pounds on building three such areas in close proximity on the eastbound single carriageway section close to Stockton on the Forest.
Some motorists have been baffled by the areas, which involve latticed concrete allowing grass to grow between the gaps. One driver who contacted The Press said: "I thought at first they might be a cycle lane or a layby, buit there's no signs up to say what they are there for, and there aren't any such areas on the other side of the road. They seem a bit weird."
But a spokeswoman for the agency said: "These are not lay-bys. They have been constructed to help us keep the traffic flowing, reduce congestion along this single carriageway stretch of the A64 and improve the safety of our roadworkers."
She said the three areas had been constructed on the grass verge to allow broken-down vehicles and vehicles involved in incidents to be removed from the carriageway to an area of safety.
"The hard standing areas will also be used by our maintenance vehicles to park," she said.
She said they had been constructed along a 700 metre section of the A64 which was prone to congestion when vehicles broke down, particularly on the eastbound lane. "This location was identified in conjunction with North Yorkshire Police," she said.
"These will provide a refuge for broken down vehicles, thereby allowing traffic to flow freely. The hard standings have been located in areas where the verge is of a suitable width and there are no underground services. The scheme has cost £270,000."
The Highways Agency has revealed that it spent more than a quarter of a million pounds on building three such areas in close proximity on the eastbound single carriageway section close to Stockton on the Forest.
Some motorists have been baffled by the areas, which involve latticed concrete allowing grass to grow between the gaps. One driver who contacted The Press said: "I thought at first they might be a cycle lane or a layby, buit there's no signs up to say what they are there for, and there aren't any such areas on the other side of the road. They seem a bit weird."
But a spokeswoman for the agency said: "These are not lay-bys. They have been constructed to help us keep the traffic flowing, reduce congestion along this single carriageway stretch of the A64 and improve the safety of our roadworkers."
She said the three areas had been constructed on the grass verge to allow broken-down vehicles and vehicles involved in incidents to be removed from the carriageway to an area of safety.
"The hard standing areas will also be used by our maintenance vehicles to park," she said.
She said they had been constructed along a 700 metre section of the A64 which was prone to congestion when vehicles broke down, particularly on the eastbound lane. "This location was identified in conjunction with North Yorkshire Police," she said.
"These will provide a refuge for broken down vehicles, thereby allowing traffic to flow freely. The hard standings have been located in areas where the verge is of a suitable width and there are no underground services. The scheme has cost £270,000."
The money would have been far better spent doing a few surface repairs further along the A64 - mostly in the single carriageway sections from Whitwell to Seamer.
No concept of how to sepnd money in the right areas (like those lovely little yellow signs to warn of overhead cables - just in case they find some money for proper maintenance).
No concept of how to sepnd money in the right areas (like those lovely little yellow signs to warn of overhead cables - just in case they find some money for proper maintenance).
Mr Overheads said:
£270,000 would have paid for a man with a tow truck to be parked nearby on a permanent basis for donley's years to remove any broken down cars FOC.
Well indeed. I'm along that road on a very regular basis and in all the years I've been doing it I've never seen a broken down vehicle on that stretch anyway. Plus why would HA need laybys for their vehicles when there is a huge layby at the cafe about 600 yards away. The only congestion along there either stems from someone stopping to let someone cross at the T-junction a mile further along or someone entering/leaving the shed place/chippy/pub just after it. It's nothing to do with broken down vehicles.Gassing Station | Yorkshire | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff