20s popping up all over Leeds

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Anyone else noticing all the 20 limits popping up all over Leeds? Noticed over the past 2 weeks that most of Headingley and Burley are now a 20 limit except for the main through roads and last week Weetwood Lane and surrounding roads have now been reduced to 20 along with a bunch of speed humps on a road which has a surface so bad that the speed humps have actually made it smoother!

Personally I still go at the same old 35-40 like I've always done unless I see some actual reason to crawl along at tortoise pace.

[el_ringo]

Do they have to have a 20 in the red circle to be enforced? I keep seeing just the paint daubed on the tarmac.

[supersport]

Popping up all over york too, mostly on cul de sacs and places where they are unnecessary.

Council seems to be inventing great ways to waste our money.

[16v stretch]

This might be something to do with it, obviously only sent to a select few in the "likely to agree" categories.

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el_ringo said:

Do they have to have a 20 in the red circle to be enforced? I keep seeing just the paint daubed on the tarmac.

The ones in Headingley are 20 in a red circle which is then on a white rectangle with a black border accompanied by "slow down!" in kids writing underneath. I don't think the speed limit is enforceable if the speed limit circle is within the borders of another sign shape. There was another thread on PH about this only recently. Thankfully the majority of other drivers are also ignoring them like myself at the moment and driving to the conditions.

[BlueMR2]

They wouldn't be doing this st if it wasn't for the tour de france.

At least they are only wasting £30 million according to their paper and everyone ignores 20mph limits anyway.

[Mr Whippy]

North Parade in Otley is now a 20mph zone, but it's not very well marked. I think if you come down that one way near the chip shop it's not signed. Also there are no repeaters at appropriate distances, and there is no return to 30mph zone markers for entering court house street and back onto the main road out over the bridge.

I doubt they are enforceable given this poor implementation in most areas... in Otley they just act to distract drivers doing double glances right where they should be looking out for kamikaze pedestrians who are crossing at inappropriate times/places (junction end of North Parade where there is no ped crossing)!


So yeah, councils wasting money alright.

Harrogate got a big government grant to sort the junction out near Morissons and the Hospital and it's still just a complete joke at any time of day, maybe 30mins to traverse Harrogate via the A59. Nice.

Then other roads off the A59 towards Skipton are a joke. The bottom of Church Bank at Blubberhouses is like a runway cratering bomb has hit it. It's only a matter of time before a bunch of cyclists end up on their faces in-front of A59 traffic after running over that lot! Eeek!


Ah well Harrogate Council know best of that I can be sure. And if something does go awry they'll be sure to have a nice expensive and cushy 'investigation' into the problems for a few years to further bolster their jobsworthiness

Dave

[thetapeworm]

The local Liberal party here in south Leeds take great pride in their ability to add a 20 limit to any part of the town where people use it as a useful cut-through. As far as I can see it's never enforced and the reality is that the roads in question are usually in such poor condition and double-parked as to create an unofficial speed restriction anyway.

My current favourite has to be the mass of "Street lights not in use between the hours of...." signs that are popping up everywhere. Save some cash on lighting and then spank it all on signs to clutter up the streets even more.