Scameras - it's started
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anonymous-user

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70 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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This afternoon I was travelling on the A168 from the A59 up towards Dishforth in the Tiv. Lovely road, wide, great visibility and empty. I use the road a lot as an alternative to the A1 and AFAIK it is NOT an accident blackspot.

As I approached the A1M J48 "intersection" a lady in a Saab coming the other way flashed me. Sure enough just up ahead was a scamera van, a second Police van and a hundred yards further on a Police Volvo. One really is entitled to ask if crime is so nonexistent in our neck of the woods that this level of manpower can be deployed in such a manner why we are continually being faced with above inflation increases in the Police precept (a 76% annual invrease a couple of years ago).


JohnFairfield

555 posts

232 months

Tuesday 4th September 2007
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Oh shit. What a waste of effort.

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markmullen

15,877 posts

250 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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Sure it wasn't ANPR?

The two cars present with one further up the road sounds like it, they often have firearms units present as some pretty juicy stuff gets pinged by the ANPR cameras.

gemini

11,352 posts

280 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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LOrd

Uncle has started one of his "trips" - It was the motorists friends - The ANPR!

I repeat - we dont have cameras


yetredface

Concerned cat

367 posts

225 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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ANPR?

Could someone enlighten me please?

boony

382 posts

253 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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ANPR = Automatic Number Plate Recognition.

ie, a camera that reads your number plate. Used primarily for journey time calculations but I believe they're now used for tax disc/insurance/MOT checks too. AFAIK, they're never used for speed limit enforcement.

I helped develop a system @ work which uses them for journey time calculations. As a system developer it was not possible for us to get the real numberplate - just an encoded version of it that allowed us to 'id' the car at different points along the motorway to calculate speeds.

This was 5 years or so ago, not sure how the technology has moved nor what it's used for nowadays.

Edited by boony on Wednesday 5th September 08:10

Concerned cat

367 posts

225 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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Thanks. I kind of knew what was being referred to, but couldn't make the letters work.........

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

70 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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Why do they need special vans for ANPR? I thought it was dash mounted in patrol cars? It has been when I've seen it used on TV.

JohnFairfield

555 posts

232 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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I saw one in Ripley the other week. It was very clearly marked.

John

tomTVR

6,909 posts

257 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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Actually on my way to Marks place a few weeks ago i tanked passed a hidden Volvo and i i just caught sight of him pulling out with his blue lights on 'bugger' i thought. But he pulled over the falling to bits Sierra behind me (the kind of car you expect uninsured drivers in) so must have been ANPR.

I think they are brilliant because most people like us would never drive without a licence, tax, mot etc.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

70 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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tomTVR said:
Actually on my way to Marks place a few weeks ago i tanked passed a hidden Volvo and i i just caught sight of him pulling out with his blue lights on 'bugger' i thought. But he pulled over the falling to bits Sierra behind me (the kind of car you expect uninsured drivers in) so must have been ANPR.

I think they are brilliant because most people like us would never drive without a licence, tax, mot etc.
I totally support the use of ANPR. But why there? Why not in areas where there is lots of traffic and a preponderance of scrotes?

tomTVR

6,909 posts

257 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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unrepentant said:
tomTVR said:
Actually on my way to Marks place a few weeks ago i tanked passed a hidden Volvo and i i just caught sight of him pulling out with his blue lights on 'bugger' i thought. But he pulled over the falling to bits Sierra behind me (the kind of car you expect uninsured drivers in) so must have been ANPR.

I think they are brilliant because most people like us would never drive without a licence, tax, mot etc.
I totally support the use of ANPR. But why there? Why not in areas where there is lots of traffic and a preponderance of scrotes?
As you say maybe because it was wide and open - perhaps easy to pull people over? Cant imagine it takes long to catch someone. Then again the real crooks are just going to fit fake plates so its back to square one rolleyes

That said the police just do whatever they want to do. My dad got done for speeding on the Easingwold bypass - how the hell can they call that a blackspot? its one big, long, straight, smooth bit of road with no junctions along it!

speed8

5,075 posts

289 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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gemini said:
I repeat - we dont have cameras


yetredface
Well... I hope that statement is true otherwise....
Few more days to go!!!

I have no problem with ANPR as I am a fine law-obiding citizen... mostly hehe

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

70 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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gemini said:
I repeat - we dont have cameras


yetredface
You are saying there are no mobile speed cameras in North Yorkshire Rich?

telecat

8,528 posts

257 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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They don't have FIXED cameras. I have seen the odd Constable with a "hair dryer" tho. Namely in Summerbridge on the way back from a Trial At Ramsgill up the valley from Pateley Bridge. I have seen them on the A59 Harrogate to York road as well. As for ANPR is that a permanent installtion on the A64 by the A1 junction????

Zo-fo

193 posts

266 months

Wednesday 5th September 2007
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unrepentant said:
gemini said:
I repeat - we dont have cameras


yetredface
You are saying there are no mobile speed cameras in North Yorkshire Rich?
There are mobile speed cameras on Settle bypass most Sundays.

delboy735

1,656 posts

218 months

Thursday 6th September 2007
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Having a little chat with an.......aquaintance, we'll call him, yesterday.He's patrolling the A64 and whitby to Scarborough roads with mobile camera. Van reg is I think YJ07HKG, Peugeot. Lo and behold, saw him today on A64 westbound Malton bypass, on the long straight in layby at top end.Also, sneekily placed Volvo, fully marked up, parked up at top of slip road onto aforemnetioned A64 at previous junction!! Keep your eyes open, this van simply takes photographic evidence, and sends out the relevant fines!!

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

70 months

Thursday 6th September 2007
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delboy735 said:
Having a little chat with an.......aquaintance, we'll call him, yesterday.He's patrolling the A64 and whitby to Scarborough roads with mobile camera. Van reg is I think YJ07HKG, Peugeot. Lo and behold, saw him today on A64 westbound Malton bypass, on the long straight in layby at top end.Also, sneekily placed Volvo, fully marked up, parked up at top of slip road onto aforemnetioned A64 at previous junction!! Keep your eyes open, this van simply takes photographic evidence, and sends out the relevant fines!!
ANPR or speed camera?

delboy735

1,656 posts

218 months

Thursday 6th September 2007
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Speed camera, the operator was saying that some forces use civilians to process the paperwork, but he will have to do all his own.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

70 months

Thursday 6th September 2007
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delboy735 said:
Speed camera, the operator was saying that some forces use civilians to process the paperwork, but he will have to do all his own.
confused Then how does that equate with Chief Inspector Abbotts;

gemini said:
I repeat - we dont have cameras


yetredface
shout RICH! Please clarify.