What is it with arrogant trades people? Argh!!
What is it with arrogant trades people? Argh!!
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gemini

Original Poster:

11,352 posts

293 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Folks Im sick to death of builders / roofers

Why is it they cannot say sorry mate Im too busy? Does honesty exist in this line of work?

You make an appointment and take time off work and wait and wait and wait - you ring to find out where they are and get some cock and bull story about the van breaking down or another client whose job ran over!
No phone call from them to say theyre going to be a no show!

And people dare complain about the service my folk give.

This inst a one off - Ive been stood up by 3 now. frown

All I want is a chimney damp proof spraying and my ridge tiles repointing

Anyone out there up for the job? - A reasonable days work for a reasonable fee smile

chris_crossley

1,164 posts

312 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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i have a long list of similar experiences. i ended up doing the work myself. didn't trust any of them, total cowboys, the lot.

good luck in the search frown

A - W

1,724 posts

244 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Sorry to hear of the troubles Rich.

Sadly many people in the trade will only come when the work is plentiful and well paid. Something for a days work isn't going to interest them much unless they have nothing else on.


angelboy

63 posts

267 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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I have to admit, I've just employed a team for a new business venture and to tell you the truth there is another side to the story.

I started to advertise for 'general' building work while another project was waiting to complete and all I got the call out for was people wanting to scam the insurance companies or wanting the job done on the cheap. I'd tell the customer current legal regulations but they all wanted building work without going through the correct procedure. I can't compete with the 'cowboy' builders quotes as they'd quote the job over the phone, get the work and then up the price when on the job. Another problem I found was that no customer wanted to pay VAT, everyone wanted a 'price for cash'. Not the way I want to do business so even at the most competitive I was always 17.5% more expensive. Most of the time we ended up going to quote the job at the time arranged and the customer wouldn't be there!!! You soon tire of unreliable customers.

I've seen it from both sides of the coin and BOTH sides aren't blame free.



Edited by angelboy on Monday 21st January 13:56

Balmoral Green

42,560 posts

277 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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angelboy said:
Stuff
Aint that the truth.

You would have thought that if there are enough people out there wanting to pay sensible money for a sensible job, and if there are enough people out there wanting to do a sensible job for sensible money, then surely they might be able to get together? But how?

I blow out more than half of my incoming leads, because it's just folks wanting absolutely the cheapest, in any way or form. Of the half that I do appoint and work, only a couple of them will be any good, the rest will also be looking for an angle on price, to the detriment of all other considerations, and not be interested in hearing a pitch about quality or spec.

It's a chicken and egg thing for sure (Well, they're not comparing eggs with eggs).

gemini

Original Poster:

11,352 posts

293 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Forget the price
I cannot get a sod to come here

They make an appointment and then dont turn up
Its infuriating when you take time off work.

Whats even worse is when its some cheeky sod whose sent you a leaflet saying "I see youre having a planning application. Can I quote for the work?" Why then not turn up - Jeez its so annoying! I will pay VAT and allow scaffolding to protect the worker!

Anyone then Nr York to quote me?

Balmoral Green

42,560 posts

277 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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gemini said:
Forget the price
Sorry, I wasn't suggesting you was cheap! hehe

angelboy

63 posts

267 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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gemini said:
Anyone then Nr York to quote me?
Can't help out on that one.

If you need a house building......smile

supersport

4,622 posts

256 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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gemini said:
Forget the price
I cannot get a sod to come here

They make an appointment and then dont turn up
Its infuriating when you take time off work.

Whats even worse is when its some cheeky sod whose sent you a leaflet saying "I see youre having a planning application. Can I quote for the work?" Why then not turn up - Jeez its so annoying! I will pay VAT and allow scaffolding to protect the worker!

Anyone then Nr York to quote me?
Snap!

Cheeky buggers responding when you have planning app.

We needed the ridge tiles replacing and I lost count of the tossers that didn't turn up to have a look at the job. Didn't even get as far as a quote.

These people just do themselves down, will slag everysingle one of them and they won't get a second chance. If they don't want the work, they could at least say so, rather than saying the will come round.

I am sure there is plenty of work at the moment, but come the hardtimes these clowns will be running scared.

angelboy

63 posts

267 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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I agree that they should say if they don't want to quote the job.


Where are you getting the builders details from?

gemini

Original Poster:

11,352 posts

293 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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Arggh!
Another on monday - wrote to me re planning

I telephoned him and told him of the job

I said if it aint for you then please say so

"Ill ring you back MATE"

MATE? - F off! - knew I wouldnt get a call back and I havent

Scanning for new contacts - internet, phone book and personal contacts.
Maybe an advert in the local paper? wink

jas xjr

11,309 posts

268 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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i do most jobs myself now,as someone said they are not interested in smallish jobs . after a few mistakes a few years ago.obviously i do not go gas and electrics but everything else. just pay for a scaffold tower and have a go

angelboy

63 posts

267 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Try looking here: www.fmb.org.uk and see if it turns anyone up.

gemini

Original Poster:

11,352 posts

293 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Cheers

Local lad came today to quote

See if he submits a quote having seen it smile

G1ABB

857 posts

233 months

Friday 25th January 2008
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Could I suggest doing a search on Polish builders or look for maintenance rather than building work as a catagory. There are usually a few 'maintenance' guys around who will do the smaller jobs.

By the way I suggested polish builders as I've used them in London and they are slowly filtering across the country, so must be in Leeds by now. In my humle expeerience they were on time, honest, finished on time and stuck to the price, despite a few unexpected things occuring. Technically they were also spot on. They also declared there income/paid VAT etc. On top of that they were cheaper. I'm not saying all polish builders are great but the degree of BS appears to be less.. As ever you pays your money and takes your choice.

PS I've just heard a polish building companies has started up in Kirkstall.. (nothing to do with me by the way)

cheers
Graham

gemini

Original Poster:

11,352 posts

293 months

Friday 25th January 2008
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Lordy Graham moves into Human Trafficking! wink

G1ABB

857 posts

233 months

Friday 25th January 2008
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gemini said:
Lordy Graham moves into Human Trafficking! wink
Anyone over the age of 10 years results in a 10% surcharge ....lol we supply the labour only... you have to provide materials Sir..

cheers
Graham