Working in Hull ?
Discussion
I asked this question in the P + P -- hoping I can get some advice in here!
I am considering a job based in Hull - walking distance of railway station.
Now I don't know that part of the UK at all -
so is Hull and its surroundings all as grim as some in the P + P would have me believe or is it, as I suspect, similar to any other UK city / large town??
I will, of course, visit first -- but can't do that for a couple of weeks.
I'm not really a city person so would prefer to live in a small town or village and commute in -- pref. train rather than sitting in a car every morning.
I would also, in the current climate, be looking to rent rather than buy as I already have a house that I suspect will be better to hang on to.
btw: I'm 30 something, married and fairly dull so city nightlife is not a consideration.
many thanks
I am considering a job based in Hull - walking distance of railway station.
Now I don't know that part of the UK at all -
so is Hull and its surroundings all as grim as some in the P + P would have me believe or is it, as I suspect, similar to any other UK city / large town??
I will, of course, visit first -- but can't do that for a couple of weeks.
I'm not really a city person so would prefer to live in a small town or village and commute in -- pref. train rather than sitting in a car every morning.
I would also, in the current climate, be looking to rent rather than buy as I already have a house that I suspect will be better to hang on to.
btw: I'm 30 something, married and fairly dull so city nightlife is not a consideration.
many thanks
I live 25 mins from Hull, and spent a good bit of my life working there.
First off what job is it, it does make a difference as some jobs would work in Hull and others wouldn't, as an example I was in car sales and selling in York and Leeds was far simpler than in Hull, there isn't that much disposable income in Hull.
The town isn't as bad as you will be told, at the same time it isn't nice. The locals vary between some young professionals, some losers, a lot of career unemployed and not many racial minorities. The work demographic is very strange in Hull indeed, there isn't a spread as in most cities and a lot of people are in relatively low paid employment. There also aren't too many top end jobs unlike in most cities.
Crime is reported to be terrible, however if you use your brain it isn't too bad at all, keep your car locked, parked in a safe place, nothing of value on display and you should be fine. There is always the chance of looking at someone the wrong way and them starting on you (especially at night) but to be honest any big roughish city is the same, and as it goes there aren't too many "brave" nutters in Hull.
Housing isn't too nice in the city, don't imagine any nice cobbled streets with mews properties they don't exist, your looking at either victorian onwards slum housing, terraces, flats, new build estates and council properties. Obviously outside the city there is the usual split including some nice properties and prices are cheap.
Food and shopping is cheap, but not that good, there are some nice little restaurants if you know where to go, but I never go out in Hull as it is only 5 mins more to go to York which is 10 times the city IMO, shopping is rubbish in Hull, the usual chain stores, a couple of shopping centres but don't expect any interesting independent retailers.
Basically don't be afraid to move up here it isn't a bad place to live, quite innocent in a lot of ways, we don't get much serious crimes, deaths/violence are rare, car insurance is cheap (out of the city), living is cheap, schools aren't great tbh, but given the choice of here or Liverpool/Brum I would choose Hull. And if the job is good go for it, at the same time don't imagine it is a cosmopolitan area like London/Leeds/Manc or even York, that said they are all drivable.
You will get the Hull fanboys wittering on about the regeneration and how much it has improved recently (and it really has) but the residents are still the same and a lot are "chav" class and so still drag a lot of areas down.
First off what job is it, it does make a difference as some jobs would work in Hull and others wouldn't, as an example I was in car sales and selling in York and Leeds was far simpler than in Hull, there isn't that much disposable income in Hull.
The town isn't as bad as you will be told, at the same time it isn't nice. The locals vary between some young professionals, some losers, a lot of career unemployed and not many racial minorities. The work demographic is very strange in Hull indeed, there isn't a spread as in most cities and a lot of people are in relatively low paid employment. There also aren't too many top end jobs unlike in most cities.
Crime is reported to be terrible, however if you use your brain it isn't too bad at all, keep your car locked, parked in a safe place, nothing of value on display and you should be fine. There is always the chance of looking at someone the wrong way and them starting on you (especially at night) but to be honest any big roughish city is the same, and as it goes there aren't too many "brave" nutters in Hull.
Housing isn't too nice in the city, don't imagine any nice cobbled streets with mews properties they don't exist, your looking at either victorian onwards slum housing, terraces, flats, new build estates and council properties. Obviously outside the city there is the usual split including some nice properties and prices are cheap.
Food and shopping is cheap, but not that good, there are some nice little restaurants if you know where to go, but I never go out in Hull as it is only 5 mins more to go to York which is 10 times the city IMO, shopping is rubbish in Hull, the usual chain stores, a couple of shopping centres but don't expect any interesting independent retailers.
Basically don't be afraid to move up here it isn't a bad place to live, quite innocent in a lot of ways, we don't get much serious crimes, deaths/violence are rare, car insurance is cheap (out of the city), living is cheap, schools aren't great tbh, but given the choice of here or Liverpool/Brum I would choose Hull. And if the job is good go for it, at the same time don't imagine it is a cosmopolitan area like London/Leeds/Manc or even York, that said they are all drivable.
You will get the Hull fanboys wittering on about the regeneration and how much it has improved recently (and it really has) but the residents are still the same and a lot are "chav" class and so still drag a lot of areas down.
North Ferriby is a good place to start, or Beverley.
Hull's ok I reckon, bit of a well kept secret and the new St Stephens development, at the front of the train station is pretty good now. Plenty to see & do and some cracking roads north & south of the river, plus you've the moors, dales, seaside and plenty of other stuff to do.
It is a bit lacking in the sophisticated nightlife you'll find in the smoke though.
Quality of life and cost of living for a professional are pretty good IMHO.
Visit though, as its one mans poison and all that.
Hull's ok I reckon, bit of a well kept secret and the new St Stephens development, at the front of the train station is pretty good now. Plenty to see & do and some cracking roads north & south of the river, plus you've the moors, dales, seaside and plenty of other stuff to do.
It is a bit lacking in the sophisticated nightlife you'll find in the smoke though.
Quality of life and cost of living for a professional are pretty good IMHO.
Visit though, as its one mans poison and all that.
I am based in York, but have worked in Hull and area for over 30 years, sometimes on a daily basis.
There are some lovely villages (and suburbs) in and around Hull, and it has an excellent road system.
The market town of Beverley is also just up the road , and the vast emptiness of Lincolnshire across the bridge.
Cadwell Park race circuit is only about a 40 minute drive away on virtually empty roads.
As previously mentioned, you can commute by train from the West Hull suburbs and villages...including some of the nicest ones.
There are some of the best driving roads in the country within minutes of Hull, most of which are pretty much deserted.
Pick the right place to live and you can enjoy a relaxed and civilised lifestyle at not too great a cost.
York on the other hand, pretty as it may be, is also congested with both vehicles and people, badly served by major roads, has plenty of chavs in residence (such that after 7pm the town centre is a virtual no-go area for genteel folk who don't wish to step over piles of puke while dodging pissed up tarts and other sundry drunken detritus), and commands exorbitant rents and house prices.
Edited to change gentile to genteel.
There are some lovely villages (and suburbs) in and around Hull, and it has an excellent road system.
The market town of Beverley is also just up the road , and the vast emptiness of Lincolnshire across the bridge.
Cadwell Park race circuit is only about a 40 minute drive away on virtually empty roads.
As previously mentioned, you can commute by train from the West Hull suburbs and villages...including some of the nicest ones.
There are some of the best driving roads in the country within minutes of Hull, most of which are pretty much deserted.
Pick the right place to live and you can enjoy a relaxed and civilised lifestyle at not too great a cost.
York on the other hand, pretty as it may be, is also congested with both vehicles and people, badly served by major roads, has plenty of chavs in residence (such that after 7pm the town centre is a virtual no-go area for genteel folk who don't wish to step over piles of puke while dodging pissed up tarts and other sundry drunken detritus), and commands exorbitant rents and house prices.
Edited to change gentile to genteel.
Edited by grahamw48 on Sunday 12th October 22:34
It's pronounced 'Bruff'. Joined to it is Elloughton, pron. 'Ellerton'.
British Aerospace have a plant there, down a leafy lane.
Also upmarket Swanland, plus Melton and Welton
All West Hull, and as pleasant as any posh Surrey village.
Beverley is ok...bit flat, but good for walking dogs on the common.
Areas all over Hull flooded, but Swanland, West Ella and Kirk Ella, being at the tip of the Wolds, are hilly... so should be ok...long as you're not at the bottom of the hill.
British Aerospace have a plant there, down a leafy lane.
Also upmarket Swanland, plus Melton and Welton
All West Hull, and as pleasant as any posh Surrey village.
Beverley is ok...bit flat, but good for walking dogs on the common.
Areas all over Hull flooded, but Swanland, West Ella and Kirk Ella, being at the tip of the Wolds, are hilly... so should be ok...long as you're not at the bottom of the hill.
Edited by grahamw48 on Sunday 12th October 18:58
I live in Beverley and I went to college/Uni (currently at) in Hull, I find that Hull and the surrounding areas are nice and crime is probably the same as anywhere else, providing as has been said you're smart about it.
The commute from Beverley to Hull centre by car takes about 40-50minutes during the rush hours and about 20minutes out of them. The train is a 15minutes journey and they're every 20minutes.
Anything other questions and I'll try my best to help.
The commute from Beverley to Hull centre by car takes about 40-50minutes during the rush hours and about 20minutes out of them. The train is a 15minutes journey and they're every 20minutes.
Anything other questions and I'll try my best to help.
The_Cheeseman said:
I live in Beverley and I went to college/Uni (currently at) in Hull, I find that Hull and the surrounding areas are nice and crime is probably the same as anywhere else, providing as has been said you're smart about it.
The commute from Beverley to Hull centre by car takes about 40-50minutes during the rush hours and about 20minutes out of them. The train is a 15minutes journey and they're every 20minutes.
Anything other questions and I'll try my best to help.
cheersThe commute from Beverley to Hull centre by car takes about 40-50minutes during the rush hours and about 20minutes out of them. The train is a 15minutes journey and they're every 20minutes.
Anything other questions and I'll try my best to help.
whats beverley like?
There are 2 sides to Beverley, separated by the train line.
East of the lines is largely council houses, the streets are getting a bit of a renovation to make them look nice. It's considered the 'dodgy' part of Beverley. It's not as bad as it's made out to be though, so don't write it off.
Otherwise everywhere else is pretty nice, it's a fairly quiet town I'd say but does get a bit chaotic during rush hours.
There's a couple of impressive churches, you're never far from a pub, there are local football/rugby clubs if you're into that, new big gym/swimming pool and the Westwood which is commonland, with trees and stuff so there's usually something for everyone. There's also a horse racing course which is a good day out in the summer. The town centre is getting a bit of a renovation too, becoming pedestrianised, plenty of shops. Got a M&S and Tesco in the centre of town and a Morrisons on the outskirts.
All in all it's a nice, easy place to live, but I've not lived anywhere else so can't say how it compares.
Edit: Fuel is pretty cheap up here too.
At the Morrisons it's currently 105.9 for petrol and 115.9 for diesel.
East of the lines is largely council houses, the streets are getting a bit of a renovation to make them look nice. It's considered the 'dodgy' part of Beverley. It's not as bad as it's made out to be though, so don't write it off.
Otherwise everywhere else is pretty nice, it's a fairly quiet town I'd say but does get a bit chaotic during rush hours.
There's a couple of impressive churches, you're never far from a pub, there are local football/rugby clubs if you're into that, new big gym/swimming pool and the Westwood which is commonland, with trees and stuff so there's usually something for everyone. There's also a horse racing course which is a good day out in the summer. The town centre is getting a bit of a renovation too, becoming pedestrianised, plenty of shops. Got a M&S and Tesco in the centre of town and a Morrisons on the outskirts.
All in all it's a nice, easy place to live, but I've not lived anywhere else so can't say how it compares.
Edit: Fuel is pretty cheap up here too.
At the Morrisons it's currently 105.9 for petrol and 115.9 for diesel.
Edited by The_Cheeseman on Sunday 12th October 21:08
I think one of the first time me and Graham agree I echo all he has said and Stu also.
I am born and bred Hull, well, the village (very small town actually) of Hessle 5 miles to the West.
As a city, it has most of what you would need, a good night out in the bars if and when you want and restaurants, lots of very very good ones out in the sticks within 30 mins drive or less.
We currently live in a small village near Goole and will soon be looking to move towards Beverley / Brough / Pocklington or any number of the lovely villages within 30 mins of Hull.
As has also been said, you get an awful lot of house for your money in East Yorkshire. One of the best sources to get a feel for the nicer side of the county is "The Journal" monthly magazine.
Email me via my profile and I will gladly send you some recent copies as we get it on subsciption.
Has someone already mentioned the vast amount of stunning, empty, scamera free roads?
I echo all he has said and Stu also.I am born and bred Hull, well, the village (very small town actually) of Hessle 5 miles to the West.
As a city, it has most of what you would need, a good night out in the bars if and when you want and restaurants, lots of very very good ones out in the sticks within 30 mins drive or less.
We currently live in a small village near Goole and will soon be looking to move towards Beverley / Brough / Pocklington or any number of the lovely villages within 30 mins of Hull.
As has also been said, you get an awful lot of house for your money in East Yorkshire. One of the best sources to get a feel for the nicer side of the county is "The Journal" monthly magazine.
Email me via my profile and I will gladly send you some recent copies as we get it on subsciption.
Has someone already mentioned the vast amount of stunning, empty, scamera free roads?
Where do you live now?
What sort of things are you looking for?
I used to work over that way and I wouldn't move my family to Hull lots of people suggested Beverley had a look but wasn't that impressed as it just didn't seem to have the quality of shops, delis and resturants we were used to.
What sort of things are you looking for?
I used to work over that way and I wouldn't move my family to Hull lots of people suggested Beverley had a look but wasn't that impressed as it just didn't seem to have the quality of shops, delis and resturants we were used to.
funk odyssey said:
is the coastline any good ?
I work in Hull city centre, its fine, easy to get to. I am at the other side, often refered to as the dark side , or the East. There are plenty of great little villages east of Hull (i am in one) 11 miles from town, 20 to 30 mins into work on some nice flat bendy roads. I have been out this way for 9 years, can make a trip to Leeds York etc that bit longer but it has a far more rural feel. I am not quite on the Coastline, about halfway between. I would stay clear of leaving near the coast, Hornsea is nice, but the others might not be to everyones tastes.
Hull has its downsides much like most Cities, i suppose its main down side (in my opinion) is the people (well not really the people, but the veiw they have of thier own city) a lot of Hull people talk Hull down. When there is quite a lot going on and a lot to be positive about. The recent success of Hull City seems to have injected a bit more of a positive attitude.
Nick
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