20mph in the villages
Discussion
It was implemented a few weeks back where I live and had general consensus is it's a waste of space more do on the very wide, very straight and very long main road though the village and with 40mph sections at either end... lot of drivers simply carry on regardless. Others go 17mph and as a result, overtakes are alarmingly common now. The other huge observation is ironically, observation... or a lack of as going 20mph on such a long, straight empty section results in more drivers drifting off, looking into people's drives, living room windows or doing many other things aside for paying attention. On the smaller, residential streets and near the school... fair enough but the main through road, it actually feels less safe and that's a view shared by many.
But I also live in an area where pavement parking is now banned and carnage has reigned ever since... traffic flow is terrible, buses get stuck, tempers fray, frustration is rising on both accounts and it feels like it's going to implode very soon.
Again I'd advocate both new changes, but there's a time and a place but this one size fits all mentality of the implementation is poorly though out and is causing fairly significant issues plus as yet, there's been no enforcement of the new limit not the pavement parking ban.
Plenty safety camera deployments on the massive, arrow straight A roads between towns though...
But I also live in an area where pavement parking is now banned and carnage has reigned ever since... traffic flow is terrible, buses get stuck, tempers fray, frustration is rising on both accounts and it feels like it's going to implode very soon.
Again I'd advocate both new changes, but there's a time and a place but this one size fits all mentality of the implementation is poorly though out and is causing fairly significant issues plus as yet, there's been no enforcement of the new limit not the pavement parking ban.
Plenty safety camera deployments on the massive, arrow straight A roads between towns though...
Edited by Davie on Sunday 19th October 23:36
I tend to stick to most of them, certainly the ones at schools and narrow roads with parked cars.
Plenty around me don't and seem to think that tailgating me will speed me up... yet they can't keep up when we get back into the NSL roads.
I've had a few run in's with some... there is 1 stretch where there are parked cars on both sides and a primary school.
The 20 zone is 200 meters... These idiots can't work out that it only "costs" them 7 seconds of their important lives to stay within the law, and potentially save a kids life should the worst happen.
They seem completely oblivious that you can measure these things, 1 particular angry middle manager with blank buttons on his s
t car claiming it takes "several minutes" to cover the distance at 20...
I also have a fairly active local group in another village, who are out with the hi viz on with cameras etc... they seem to be more bothered about noise/motorbikes than speed though.. again, I've pointed that out to them one day when I went through at 30 in my EV without a blink, then followed up by doing 19 on my bike and got a very different reception..
Plenty around me don't and seem to think that tailgating me will speed me up... yet they can't keep up when we get back into the NSL roads.
I've had a few run in's with some... there is 1 stretch where there are parked cars on both sides and a primary school.
The 20 zone is 200 meters... These idiots can't work out that it only "costs" them 7 seconds of their important lives to stay within the law, and potentially save a kids life should the worst happen.
They seem completely oblivious that you can measure these things, 1 particular angry middle manager with blank buttons on his s

I also have a fairly active local group in another village, who are out with the hi viz on with cameras etc... they seem to be more bothered about noise/motorbikes than speed though.. again, I've pointed that out to them one day when I went through at 30 in my EV without a blink, then followed up by doing 19 on my bike and got a very different reception..
I think it should be case by case, some applications of 20 are excessive, others are very much needed.
Same for all speed limits. Once they are reduced they will unlikely ever go up. It’s an easy cash in for the treasury. There is plenty of money to install cameras but not so much to update the road network quality.
Same for all speed limits. Once they are reduced they will unlikely ever go up. It’s an easy cash in for the treasury. There is plenty of money to install cameras but not so much to update the road network quality.
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