Knockhill Track Driving Lessons - worth the money?
Knockhill Track Driving Lessons - worth the money?
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KEF

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65 posts

204 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Anyone here been to knockhill for an instructor lesson in their own car?

I bought Mass's old XTR2 and am finding that it can be a bit of handful in damp conditions. In the dry on public roads it's completely placid, as driving within speed limits doesn't really give any indication of what it's cabable of, or where it's limits lie. I did the prodrive driver one day course a few years back and felt quite comfortable on the track, but though that a lesson would be sensible before tackling a track day.

any thoughts?

Adam Kindness

668 posts

239 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Never done one personally, but Fee did one in the skyline.

There was a large difference in her driving before and after. Much better lines, more confidence etc. Seems to work in my opinion.

H.7

154 posts

266 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Done it a few times in different cars. I'd say it was worth it - 25 laps on an empty track is probably worth it on its own smile but I always learn something from the instructor.

northo

2,377 posts

241 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Definately worth it. I always try and grab Alan Brunton who is a great instructor. Besides, who else is going to train you on track?

not applicable

384 posts

234 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Definately recommed lessons, were worth the money for me.

Edited by not applicable on Saturday 21st February 22:15

Ecurie Ecosse

4,812 posts

240 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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What kind of prices are they?

justin220

5,650 posts

226 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Great thing IMO. Done a day with Sasha (sp) in my old exige and was brilliant. Hopefully doing another one this month.

renmure

4,786 posts

246 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Surprised Mass didn't ensure that him taking you out for laps and laps and laps and laps in it wasn't part of the sale deal smile

KEF

Original Poster:

65 posts

204 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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cheers folks, always nice to get positive feedback. Think I'll go ahead then.

Believe the cost is £119 = 25 laps and lasts about an hour

Funnily enough Mass did mention something about drift lessons (should I trust a guy who has too fast too furious Tokyo drift posters in his garage smile )

Would be nice to actually get the car out for a play, seem to have done nothing but tinker with it for weeks (but I guess that's half the fun) planning to fit a scottoiler tomorrow, hopefully get it out for a run afterwards.
Rgrds
KEF

Rockatansky

1,814 posts

209 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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northo said:
Definately worth it. I always try and grab Alan Brunton who is a great instructor. Besides, who else is going to train you on track?
smile

Alan is a grade 'A' headcase.

Talented chap though (and married to Sasha).







Joking aside, I know Alan personally (he is a bampot) and he can drive wink

Ecurie Ecosse

4,812 posts

240 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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KEF said:
cheers folks, always nice to get positive feedback. Think I'll go ahead then.

Believe the cost is £119 = 25 laps and lasts about an hour

Funnily enough Mass did mention something about drift lessons (should I trust a guy who has too fast too furious Tokyo drift posters in his garage smile )

Would be nice to actually get the car out for a play, seem to have done nothing but tinker with it for weeks (but I guess that's half the fun) planning to fit a scottoiler tomorrow, hopefully get it out for a run afterwards.
Rgrds
KEF
That sounds good value. Can you get a loan of one of their cars? I don't think the leasing company would be very impressed if I stuffed their new car at Knockhill smile

ETA - looking at their website they also have on road tuition for 4 hours in your own car. This sounds just what I'm after - has anyone done it?

Edited by Ecurie Ecosse on Sunday 22 February 09:38

KEF

Original Poster:

65 posts

204 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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evening folks

With all the positive feedback I went ahead and booked a instructor session up at knockhill.

Amazing how many people recognized/commented on the westie. One of the workshop guys was kind enough to lend me the use of his air hose when I realized I'd forgotten not only to check the tyres but also to bring my pump.

After a brief chat with the clerk of the course (who wanted to convince himself that I wasn't a complete nutter before he let me loose on his track) I got underway with a young lad Joe as my instructor.

Sitting in a car that low I was really glad to have him along, from utube videos I had no idea how blind some of the corners were.

He took a quick shot to show the best lines through the corners then back over to me

Out if the pits and tried really hard to hit the first apex then down through the series, tried to catch second at the bottom of the hill, nothing doing. Carried on up the hill passing one of their Seats and went for fourth, again nothing doing. Coming up to the last hairpin and it dawned on me - gear linkage had gone with the car stuck in third. Game over.

Still they were really sound about it and said I could rebook once I've sorted the car.

Disappointed with the outcome but can't fault knockhill at all - desperate to get back up there and really get motoring.

Some small consolation - even with only third gear at my disposal I was catching their Ferrari 360 - probably miss daisy at the wheel though.

Modena Scotland

261 posts

244 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Sorry to hear about the gear..... Hope you can sort it out soon.

The XTR2 shouldn't have too much problem keeping up with a 360. It could take a while for you to get used to track driving so take it easy.

I will see you at KH soon.

Mass




KEF

Original Poster:

65 posts

204 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Ah there he is, howdy Mass.

not too bothered about the gear linkage, fairly sure I can get to it without loosing too many fingers. Half the fun was buying a car I could work on myself. Just serviced it, re-tensioned the chain, fitted a scottoiler and replaced the brake fluid with some nice high temp AP stuff. Still havering about the rear diffuser needs quite a few brackets and could make it really hard to get on the trailer - side plates for the wing may be a better bet.

Monday was the first time I've tried it with the race nose and tyres, on the dry track it was totally planted - for the few laps I got I was still well within my limits (apart from slightly overcooking the 1st corner one time), the way I drive probably build up slowly, the instructor day was good in that they've set cones at the brake and turn in points as well as marking each apex, really good to have something clear to aim at.

I think a few more laps would have had me crawling all over the Ferrari (except with the instructor at the wheel - christ they're fast round there)

hoped I'd make the track scotland day - but I think the instructor plan was the best way to start; plus given the weather on saturday I'd have drowned - the exige looked good in the rain though....

take it easy
KEF

Modena Scotland

261 posts

244 months

Tuesday 10th March 2009
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Were you at the Track Scotland day? If so, you should have said hi.

You will love track driving.

Neil Allan

403 posts

203 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Im looking to book one of these towards the end of the month in my new 996 turbo to try and get more feel for the car. Looks to be good value for money from Knockhill , just a pity the trackday insurance quotes im getting cost more than the training course frown

Modena Scotland

261 posts

244 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Neil

You are unlikely to bin the car as you will be with the instructor. Just don't over drive and you should be ok.

Neil Allan

403 posts

203 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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I was thinking that but for the sake of an extra £170 im not going to take the chance with a 40K car.

S2red

2,546 posts

213 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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Driving on track solo under instruction is not a track day for insurance purposes is it not?

Modena Scotland

261 posts

244 months

Wednesday 11th March 2009
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If you feel that way, you better get the cover. However, the excess is usually 10% of the car's value so you need to bin it big time to need the insurance.