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Quote for MOT failure works please 390 SE
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maston

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872 posts

182 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Hi All,
My new 390 SE (owned for 2 weeks) has failed the MOT miserably :-(
Can anyone please recommend a good reasonably priced specialist preferably in Essex for the following works :-

Brakes Failures : RBT Front Brake Imbalance: 30%
001 Front brake application uneven
002 Offside Rear brake binding
003 Nearside front Direction indiactors not working
004 Nearside side repeater not working
005 Rear fog lamp not working
006 Nearside rear fog lamp adversely affected by the operaion of another lamp
007 Offside front (chassis) suspension component mounting prescribed area is fractured
008 Offside rear shock absorber has a serious fluid leak
009 Nearside rear brake pad (s) less than 1.5mm thick
010 Front brakes imbalanced.

Apart from the above it's great !!! lol

Any recommendations really appreciated as it is a really nice looking 390 se (thank you barrington for the compliment who spotted the car in Grays, Essex on saturday driving back from the MOT station).

Kind Regards

Ian

Wedg1e

27,041 posts

295 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Second-hand rear shock from someone on here, sort the electrics and brakes yourself, just leaves a small amount of fabrication/welding to the chassis... £200 tops including all parts. I'd offer to take a look but I'm a couple of hundred miles north of you biggrin

alex_gray255

6,344 posts

235 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Where in Essex are you located?

lestershaw

1,591 posts

188 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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try Ian at Hilton and Moss Stansted, formerly castle tvr
01279 813 907
sorry if im stupid but i have some second hand shocks from my chimaera if they by chance fit?

Lean Machine

2,715 posts

195 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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maston said:
Nearside rear fog lamp adversely affected by the operaion of another lamp
This guy seems really picky. What planet is he on? If I were you I'd get some of the more major faults fixed and take the car for an MOT somewhere else, and make sure everyone in your area knows what he is like and avoid that MOT station in the future.

Tony. TCB.

SMB

1,523 posts

296 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Lean Machine said:
This guy seems really picky. What planet is he on? If I were you I'd get some of the more major faults fixed and take the car for an MOT somewhere else, and make sure everyone in your area knows what he is like and avoid that MOT station in the future.

Tony. TCB.
Why is this picky, it sounds like a classic case of a bad earth , in which case the car should be fixed to meet MOT standards. compared to other items it should be an easy fix, but is not picky.

alex_gray255

6,344 posts

235 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Hope the suggestions I sent help!

As per Lester's suggestion, they also do MOTs on site so are much more "TVR aware/friendly" than other places maybe.

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

243 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Bit late now, but seeing as you only got the car 2 weeks ago, but you should have got the previous guy to MOT it, if the MOT was due, or at least had the car examined before buying.

Sounds like it could have been sitting for a while if most of the brakes are binding, I'd get them all refurbished, and fit new pads.
Electrics should be easy to sort, the rear light connectors can be quite problematic.

as for shocks I'd look at the other one, and maybe fit 2 new ones to the rear.

Lean Machine

2,715 posts

195 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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SMB said:
Why is this picky, it sounds like a classic case of a bad earth , in which case the car should be fixed to meet MOT standards. compared to other items it should be an easy fix, but is not picky.
I'll tell you why I think its picky. Some of these MOT stations don't understand the workings of a classic TVR and reel off trivial things that could easily be corrected in minutes. In this case with 'another light adversely effecting the fog light' could easily mean its shining through the cluster to the next light. Not necessarily an earthing problem. It seems trivial to me and I hate unfriendly MOT stations such as this.

Tony.

jagracer

8,248 posts

266 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Lean Machine said:
I'll tell you why I think its picky. Some of these MOT stations don't understand the workings of a classic TVR and reel off trivial things that could easily be corrected in minutes. In this case with 'another light adversely effecting the fog light' could easily mean its shining through the cluster to the next light. Not necessarily an earthing problem. It seems trivial to me and I hate unfriendly MOT stations such as this.

Tony.
It's not picky, here's how it works with me. I find maybe one or two faults with lights that I can fix after the test and PRS it. I find lots of small faults and one large one I can't fix within an hour so I fail it on everything I find, I wouldn't just omit items because it's a classic.

JMF894

6,641 posts

185 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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At the end of the day classic or not a car needs to meet the MOT standard. I mean, we want our cars to be safe right?

Regarding the rear shock, take the opportunity to get some height/damper/rebound adjustable ones whilst your at it.

New springs aren't too pricy either and you may find if its still fitted with original ones it will make a big difference.....................but then you would really need to do the fronts too!

As for the lights............earthing most probably. A morning scratching around cleaning connections up should sort that.

Jimbo

Lean Machine

2,715 posts

195 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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I don't want, or expect my vehicle to pass an MOT if there are things wrong with it. Especially dangerous things. What I am trying to say is that just like any other trade I like to think that I am getting a fair deal. I have had bad experiences with MOT testers in the past and that is probably why I am so cautious. You see some years back I took an MOT station to court with the help of the Trading Standards people for dishonesty, and I won the case. The MOT station was fined and I got all my money back for the work carried out and all its expenses. They were lucky not to loose their licence. It's a long story that I won't go into now, but just like any other trade there are dishonest people. That aside, when they pick on silly things its annoying because its so easy to put right in minutes, if they were just friendly and pointed it out. That's was all I was trying to say.
Tony.

vampire222

433 posts

179 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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003 Nearside front Direction indiactors not working
004 Nearside side repeater not working
005 Rear fog lamp not working
006 Nearside rear fog lamp adversely affected by the operaion of another lamp

You should be able to fix this stuff yourself. What i always do is fix the stuff i can myself then look at whats left. The brakes and lights are usually not too hard to do yourself.

Edited by vampire222 on Monday 5th December 19:27

JMF894

6,641 posts

185 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Tony to be fair it sounds like your experiences with MOT testers is, through no fault of your own, rather tainted compared to other peoples.

I think if vampire's car had only failed on the minor electrical stuff then it may well of gained a pass by the end of the day, but as it needs some more serious attention with the chassis which was never going to get done on the test day it failed and everything was listed as a consequence.

My local automatically fixes little stuff like dodgy lights etc

Jimbo



Wedg1e

27,041 posts

295 months

Monday 5th December 2011
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Lean Machine said:
I don't want, or expect my vehicle to pass an MOT if there are things wrong with it. Especially dangerous things. What I am trying to say is that just like any other trade I like to think that I am getting a fair deal. I have had bad experiences with MOT testers in the past and that is probably why I am so cautious. You see some years back I took an MOT station to court with the help of the Trading Standards people for dishonesty, and I won the case. The MOT station was fined and I got all my money back for the work carried out and all its expenses. They were lucky not to loose their licence. It's a long story that I won't go into now, but just like any other trade there are dishonest people. That aside, when they pick on silly things its annoying because its so easy to put right in minutes, if they were just friendly and pointed it out. That's was all I was trying to say.
Tony.
MOT testing is getting like speed cameras vs. a Policeman: there is little or no leeway or discretion - and perhaps rightly so. Granted the tester can 'look the other way' over daft items like one failed sidelamp (bulbs can blow at anytime) but a cracked/ rotten chassis? If I was an MOT tester I'd be valuing my licence more than some crusty old pile of a classic (the motor trade generally sees cars as monetary units, not cherished jewellery). Far too many jokers have turned up over the years with unsafe heaps of sh!te and tried to blag it - a mate of mine is a bike MOT tester who tells me of some of the horrors he sees almost daily.
I have an 'understanding' MOT tester but he's due to retire soon and I'm not yet sure where to find someone as 'understanding' wink
Let's just say that the 'fluffy' seatbelts (from rubbing on that bloody crossbrace) may be the least of my worries.

vampire222

433 posts

179 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Well look at it like this: It's for your own safety as well as others that your stuff like turn signals and brakes work properly. They could've probably fixed half of the things with some adjustments or replacement bulbs though.

But rules are rules.

We have a similar yearly test here in The Netherlands. Thankfully it's bi-yearly from 30 years of car age on....

beario

70 posts

277 months

Wednesday 7th December 2011
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can i ask maston,was this the blue 309se thats was on ebay with no mot from manchester way???

maston

Original Poster:

872 posts

182 months

Thursday 8th December 2011
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Yes indeed.

Kind of regret buying it now as my 350i is in much better condition, bodywork almost mint ! Mind you it had to have a top engine rebuild and is having a new clutch this week ! Don't you just love TVR's....
The 390 SE looked much better in the pics on e-bay, don't get me wrong it's not a bucket case but is not as good as I thought. And did I mention that the roof needs stitching too......another £500

pistolar

1,474 posts

298 months

Thursday 8th December 2011
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If you ask Barrington he may do the work privately for you

vampire222

433 posts

179 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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maston said:
Yes indeed.

Kind of regret buying it now as my 350i is in much better condition, bodywork almost mint ! Mind you it had to have a top engine rebuild and is having a new clutch this week ! Don't you just love TVR's....
The 390 SE looked much better in the pics on e-bay, don't get me wrong it's not a bucket case but is not as good as I thought. And did I mention that the roof needs stitching too......another £500
You've got a 390 SE which is pretty awesome by itself to have man. Wish i had the 3.9 in mine i'd know!!