BIGGER BRAKES,

[superwedge]

FITTING some bigger brakes , vented disc,ects new wheel bearings and tie bar fittings, all ready got all new joints, and better brake pips ,and a paint up as welllots to do still :but getting there slowly

Edited by superwedge on Sunday 13th May 12:19

[Jack Valiant]

Did you replace the vented disks? If so don't suppose you have the donor car and or the part number do you as I have the same set up on mine and want to get the correct disks fella

Chris

[superwedge]

i got these;s from tasmin devil on ebay a few months ago, he;s on here, he will no ,or some one will know him,

[Wedg1e]

Jack Valiant said:

Did you replace the vented disks? If so don't suppose you have the donor car and or the part number do you as I have the same set up on mine and want to get the correct disks fella

Chris

2.8V6 Mk2 Granada estate is the usual donor for the vented discs, along with (typically) Austin Princess calipers using 10mm spacers between the castings. Think there's an article on tvrwedgepages about it...

[mk2 24v]

2.8i mk2 granada front discs and matching calipers surely would be better than them horrid 4pot austin things?

and the fact the granny calipers are about 30quid recon from motor factors too

[Wedg1e]

mk2 24v said:

2.8i mk2 granada front discs and matching calipers surely would be better than them horrid 4pot austin things?

The Granada vented setup is exactly what is on my 390SE and the brakes, frankly, are crap. I have some of those horrid Austin things to try so I'll reserve judgement on them until I have

[islander]

I am not sure if these are the right spec for the Granada estate front discs, but as they are vented and I think these were only fitted on the estate, it could be they are, but would suggest you check elsewhere to confirm.

I paid £35 for my plain discs 8 years ago when I went this way so £25+VAT and delivery a pair looks reasonable! Probably depends on your views on drilled and grooved v's a flat surface

http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?cPat...

[mk2 24v]

Wedg1e said:

The Granada vented setup is exactly what is on my 390SE and the brakes, frankly, are crap. I have some of those horrid Austin things to try so I'll reserve judgement on them until I have

really? never had problems with them on my granny round brands
(well, not until the fluid overheated )

I think the main thing with the Austin calipers is most aren't in the best of health, the weight more and if the master cylinder isn't the right size, the piston surface area means you get a longer pedal

oh, and the vented discs should be on all 2.8 Granadas, not just the estate

[Wedg1e]

mk2 24v said:

oh, and the vented discs should be on all 2.8 Granadas, not just the estate

Now you say that but I recall my old man fitting new discs to a Grandad V6 saloon and they'd supplied vented ones that didn't fit... he was then told they were for the estate. Was there a carb'ed V6? Maybe they didn't get vented discs...

I agree that many people simply buy up some ratty old 4-piston APs and bang them on without so much as a cursory check-over, and also that in theory a Granada was perfectly capable of stopping on its original setup but I've had brake fade numerous times on the road and definitely at Croft circuit! Mind you a Wedge is not the lightweight sports car some would have you believe, even compared to a Granny... some of TVR's brochures even omitted the car's weight, what does that say?!

[RCK974X]

YES, there was a carbed V6 Granny estate, and I seem to remember NONE of the earlier grannys had the vented discs. Then the estates got them later, and then the X pack and Ghia injection models. I think the standard 2.8i auto never did get the vented versions, but not totally sure about that.

I see there's a web article showing that one of the Toyota (pickup?)4 pack calipers fit perfectly to PB16 mounts and discs - it was for the TR6 in that article, but it means they should work for Vixen,M, and non vented Wedges too...

[adam quantrill]

Interesting.... if you google this

Four piston brake caliper conversion for TR3/3A/4/4A/250 and 6.

you will find it - I would post a link but maybe it breaks forum rules.

[RCK974X]

Yep, that will be the one - I wasn't sure if anyone would be interested - I don't know about UK (I've been gone for 17 years), but Toyota stuff here in NZ is cheap and plentiful - and I'll probably have a serious look at this option when I get around to my Wedge rebuild.

The chances of finding Austin Princess calipers here is probably about the same as proving that there really are little green men in flying saucers....Cortina parts are hard enough !

Edited by RCK974X on Tuesday 15th May 08:56

[superwedge]

a good driver, would never used brakes,

[voltage_maxx]

Also - check the condition of your rear brakes. Most people never touch the inboard rears as they're a nightmare to service.
When I took mine off the car, three of the four pistons were seized solid into the caliper!
Rebuilding them with stainless steel pistons - then they should never need rebuilding again!

With the rear brakes working properly, it will halve the work the front brakes are having to do.

I've upgraded to vented 2.8 Granada discs, and bought a spacer kit from Rally Design for M16 (standard) calipers, plus Ferodo DS2500 pads.
We'll see if they're any good when I get the car back on the road!

[RCK974X]

Yeah, too true.....

I've done all my brakes now, cleaned up and new seal kits throughout. I was lucky I guess, pistons were all reuseable. The rears were a complete b*st*rd, I ended up taking the whole subframe and diff out, which makes brake access easy. Did the full biz on the handbrake 'clappers' too.

Made a big difference, but a real pain to bleed out the rear end afterwards.
May need a new master cyl soon though - not convinced the new seals have entirely fixed things...

[Wedg1e]

voltage_maxx said:

Also - check the condition of your rear brakes. Most people never touch the inboard rears as they're a nightmare to service.
When I took mine off the car, three of the four pistons were seized solid into the caliper!
Rebuilding them with stainless steel pistons - then they should never need rebuilding again!

'Nightmare' is perhaps overstating the issue, I feel, but the job certainly benefits from an extensive toolkit and even more extensive vocabulary of profanity
I only had one seized piston having not touched the rear brakes in almost a dozen years; also rebuilt them with stainless pistons, let's hope they stay free...

[superwedge]

thses brakes should stop theses car ok ,