News about TVR!
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Hi
It appears TVR has now been sold to a British Company the Russian has sold it all.
The TVRCC have confirmed this is correct, but they will not say who it is but things sound more promising, so the name is not dead.
We keep it going with ower cars and it will be interesting to see what happens in the future!
Andy
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/scoop/tvr-sold-b...
It appears TVR has now been sold to a British Company the Russian has sold it all.
The TVRCC have confirmed this is correct, but they will not say who it is but things sound more promising, so the name is not dead.
We keep it going with ower cars and it will be interesting to see what happens in the future!
Andy
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/scoop/tvr-sold-b...
Edited by Mr Tank on Friday 7th June 10:54
Just to confirm..The price of buying it all back was considerably minimal..A big bag of washing powder did the trick..He wont be too impressed when he realises its not what he thought it was but at least he will be able to clean up his act..
What good news..Hopefully the new owners wont let the TVR name rot like it was doing and start producing some well needed parts..And some new mean looking beast's...Viva la TVR....Ziga
What good news..Hopefully the new owners wont let the TVR name rot like it was doing and start producing some well needed parts..And some new mean looking beast's...Viva la TVR....Ziga
Not sure what to make of it.
I always saw the old set up as a long line of devotees for the car from roll out from the factory to the many or few owners they would have. Those of us that could not afford new could look around and get an excellent example but there always seemed to be some affiliation whether real or perceived back to the birth of the car and its home. That ended in my opinion when PW sold. That was the bit that was special for me, apart from the cars of course. The club was a good reflection of the range of owners and help etc etc. Always seemed to be anecdotes about getting back in touch with the factory for some info and it was given etc etc.
I am not sure yet but not wanting to widdle on anyone's parade. It has been many years since it went now, nearly 10?
I always saw the old set up as a long line of devotees for the car from roll out from the factory to the many or few owners they would have. Those of us that could not afford new could look around and get an excellent example but there always seemed to be some affiliation whether real or perceived back to the birth of the car and its home. That ended in my opinion when PW sold. That was the bit that was special for me, apart from the cars of course. The club was a good reflection of the range of owners and help etc etc. Always seemed to be anecdotes about getting back in touch with the factory for some info and it was given etc etc.
I am not sure yet but not wanting to widdle on anyone's parade. It has been many years since it went now, nearly 10?
jmorgan said:
Not sure what to make of it.
I always saw the old set up as a long line of devotees for the car from roll out from the factory to the many or few owners they would have. Those of us that could not afford new could look around and get an excellent example but there always seemed to be some affiliation whether real or perceived back to the birth of the car and its home. That ended in my opinion when PW sold. That was the bit that was special for me, apart from the cars of course. The club was a good reflection of the range of owners and help etc etc.
I was tempted to register on Autocar just to say a few words to the whingers but I couldn't be bothered to put up with yet more unsolicited cr*p so I won't I always saw the old set up as a long line of devotees for the car from roll out from the factory to the many or few owners they would have. Those of us that could not afford new could look around and get an excellent example but there always seemed to be some affiliation whether real or perceived back to the birth of the car and its home. That ended in my opinion when PW sold. That was the bit that was special for me, apart from the cars of course. The club was a good reflection of the range of owners and help etc etc.
TVRs were always enthusiasts cars. They were driven by people who could work a spanner and, to be fair, a lot of mass-market cars weren't exactly any better screwed-together than TVRs offerings...
Then along came the 1990s and a glut of young guys who went from driving a newish Peugeot 205 (perhaps mummy's cast-off) at Uni to having so much disposable income they didn't know what to do with it, so they bought a TVR 'cos it was good for their image
The slightest thing that went wrong turned into a major breakdown; they'd never done the teenage kerbside fixing that most of us of a certain age had to and hadn't the first idea of how anything worked, so they turned to the newfound media of the internet and complained long and loud about how 'unreliable' TVRs were.
Meanwhile cars like the 911 moved on in leaps and bounds, backed by the R&D of multi-million pound corporations and international sales. The per-unit cost was almost certainly less but they sold for more than a TVR, so those who'd almost-but-not-quite 'made it' bought a TVR instead - 'cos it was still good for their image, bit of a rebel, all that - and then, as you can see in certain quarters, moaned like phuck 'cos they thought their thousands ought to be buying Porsche build quality. Er no, numb-nuts: you're paying for the exclusivity of ownership, for wages of real, hands-on blokes, not for the profit margins generated by stamping presses, welding robots and plastic-injection machines.
A TVR is almost like a commissioned piece of artwork: you don't want exactly the same as someone else. It's like having Dave up at Wolds Wood make you an oak table to exactly fit your space instead of going to Oakfurnitureland and buying something 'close', knocked-out by Chinamen for a handful of rice a fortnight. It may be cheaper but you can bet that the fat cat at the top, handing out the rice, is taking a bigger per-unit cut.
Granted, PW did sometimes get it wrong, like buying in chocolate engine parts from the Far East, but like any business he had books to balance. Once the supply issue was solved, the engines were fantastic.
If you want a Porsche or a Ferrari, save your bonus/ tax fiddles and buy one. But for phuck's sake leave TVRs to those who appreciate them for what they are.
.....well said mate..You speak with truth and passion..It was the shyte comments that kept me away from TVR's..Until now..When i first saw the wedge i was a 19 year old respectable upstanding citizen that looked upon it and thought i would love to own one of them as it represented to me at the time everything great about being british..It shouted.."So what if im loud..Have my own style..Drink too much"...."My presence is always felt when i walk into a room"..."And im proud of who i am"..like you say..The quality is quality..Built by real people..The wedge for me always looked fantastic and still does..Its not perfect but it is perfection..It smells like a real car...For real people..I love every single TVR model and a lot of other classic cars..Some i will never afford but the wedge has always been in my heart so now i have the chance to put my heart into the wedge..It makes me feel proud of who i am.. Edited by mrzigazaga on Saturday 8th June 01:23
Yeah, well said. I got fed up of boring 'clone' cars, and moved to kit cars, which I built myself. I can honestly say my first kit broke down twice in 10 years. Pretty good I thought. The other half spotted the Vixen for sale, and it ocurred to me it was just like a manufactured kit car really, so I bought it .... a few years later I bought the Wedge.
So for me it was a natural progression from clone, to 'built' by me' to 'built by hand' and you accept that means there are going to be little niggles and stuff you can improve...it's part of the joy of owning it.
How many Vixens are left ? How many Wedges ? can't be all that many - a few thousand ?
Very unique, and worth celebrating.
So for me it was a natural progression from clone, to 'built' by me' to 'built by hand' and you accept that means there are going to be little niggles and stuff you can improve...it's part of the joy of owning it.
How many Vixens are left ? How many Wedges ? can't be all that many - a few thousand ?
Very unique, and worth celebrating.
Edited by RCK974X on Saturday 8th June 05:08
Wedg1e said:
I was tempted to register on Autocar just to say a few words to the whingers but I couldn't be bothered to put up with yet more unsolicited cr*p so I won't
TVRs were always enthusiasts cars. They were driven by people who could work a spanner and, to be fair, a lot of mass-market cars weren't exactly any better screwed-together than TVRs offerings...
Then along came the 1990s and a glut of young guys who went from driving a newish Peugeot 205 (perhaps mummy's cast-off) at Uni to having so much disposable income they didn't know what to do with it, so they bought a TVR 'cos it was good for their image
The slightest thing that went wrong turned into a major breakdown; they'd never done the teenage kerbside fixing that most of us of a certain age had to and hadn't the first idea of how anything worked, so they turned to the newfound media of the internet and complained long and loud about how 'unreliable' TVRs were.
Meanwhile cars like the 911 moved on in leaps and bounds, backed by the R&D of multi-million pound corporations and international sales. The per-unit cost was almost certainly less but they sold for more than a TVR, so those who'd almost-but-not-quite 'made it' bought a TVR instead - 'cos it was still good for their image, bit of a rebel, all that - and then, as you can see in certain quarters, moaned like phuck 'cos they thought their thousands ought to be buying Porsche build quality. Er no, numb-nuts: you're paying for the exclusivity of ownership, for wages of real, hands-on blokes, not for the profit margins generated by stamping presses, welding robots and plastic-injection machines.
A TVR is almost like a commissioned piece of artwork: you don't want exactly the same as someone else. It's like having Dave up at Wolds Wood make you an oak table to exactly fit your space instead of going to Oakfurnitureland and buying something 'close', knocked-out by Chinamen for a handful of rice a fortnight. It may be cheaper but you can bet that the fat cat at the top, handing out the rice, is taking a bigger per-unit cut.
Granted, PW did sometimes get it wrong, like buying in chocolate engine parts from the Far East, but like any business he had books to balance. Once the supply issue was solved, the engines were fantastic.
If you want a Porsche or a Ferrari, save your bonus/ tax fiddles and buy one. But for phuck's sake leave TVRs to those who appreciate them for what they are.
......Yay!TVRs were always enthusiasts cars. They were driven by people who could work a spanner and, to be fair, a lot of mass-market cars weren't exactly any better screwed-together than TVRs offerings...
Then along came the 1990s and a glut of young guys who went from driving a newish Peugeot 205 (perhaps mummy's cast-off) at Uni to having so much disposable income they didn't know what to do with it, so they bought a TVR 'cos it was good for their image
The slightest thing that went wrong turned into a major breakdown; they'd never done the teenage kerbside fixing that most of us of a certain age had to and hadn't the first idea of how anything worked, so they turned to the newfound media of the internet and complained long and loud about how 'unreliable' TVRs were.
Meanwhile cars like the 911 moved on in leaps and bounds, backed by the R&D of multi-million pound corporations and international sales. The per-unit cost was almost certainly less but they sold for more than a TVR, so those who'd almost-but-not-quite 'made it' bought a TVR instead - 'cos it was still good for their image, bit of a rebel, all that - and then, as you can see in certain quarters, moaned like phuck 'cos they thought their thousands ought to be buying Porsche build quality. Er no, numb-nuts: you're paying for the exclusivity of ownership, for wages of real, hands-on blokes, not for the profit margins generated by stamping presses, welding robots and plastic-injection machines.
A TVR is almost like a commissioned piece of artwork: you don't want exactly the same as someone else. It's like having Dave up at Wolds Wood make you an oak table to exactly fit your space instead of going to Oakfurnitureland and buying something 'close', knocked-out by Chinamen for a handful of rice a fortnight. It may be cheaper but you can bet that the fat cat at the top, handing out the rice, is taking a bigger per-unit cut.
Granted, PW did sometimes get it wrong, like buying in chocolate engine parts from the Far East, but like any business he had books to balance. Once the supply issue was solved, the engines were fantastic.
If you want a Porsche or a Ferrari, save your bonus/ tax fiddles and buy one. But for phuck's sake leave TVRs to those who appreciate them for what they are.
MikeyB
ian, Mark
i agree completely. especially the roadside teenage fixes. one of my managers about 45 couldnt replace a headlight lamp on his focus, told him i'd nip out and do it but he didnt want my suit to get dirty! i shook my head in despair while he took it to halfrauds.
i love tinkering about with motors and engines of any sort, not a trained mechanic or anything but i can strip fix and rebuild, cant imagine being unable to change a lamp.
I've got an Astra Sri, the work give me a punto to use, whenever i'm un meetings and the chat gets to motors, theyve all got the latest rangey or audi or porsche, usually trying to show off, i tell them i have TVR. Suddenly their not interested in their jelly mould mass produced bits of pish anymore and just want to talk about TVR's.
With the right engine in a new TVR, these people would be easy swayed into dumping their jelly moulds and buy a TVR, even if they cant change a lamp, which they cant do on any car anyway.
Rambling over.
may your god bless tvr and all who ride (in) her.
marcus
i agree completely. especially the roadside teenage fixes. one of my managers about 45 couldnt replace a headlight lamp on his focus, told him i'd nip out and do it but he didnt want my suit to get dirty! i shook my head in despair while he took it to halfrauds.
i love tinkering about with motors and engines of any sort, not a trained mechanic or anything but i can strip fix and rebuild, cant imagine being unable to change a lamp.
I've got an Astra Sri, the work give me a punto to use, whenever i'm un meetings and the chat gets to motors, theyve all got the latest rangey or audi or porsche, usually trying to show off, i tell them i have TVR. Suddenly their not interested in their jelly mould mass produced bits of pish anymore and just want to talk about TVR's.
With the right engine in a new TVR, these people would be easy swayed into dumping their jelly moulds and buy a TVR, even if they cant change a lamp, which they cant do on any car anyway.
Rambling over.
may your god bless tvr and all who ride (in) her.
marcus
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