Cost of a ground up restoration
Cost of a ground up restoration
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JVaughan

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6,025 posts

313 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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Out of interest, does anyone have any figures of what it would cost to restore a Wedge from the ground up ?

ie, New chassis, respray, new brakes / caliper overhaul, new shocks / springs, bushes all round

mrzigazaga

18,816 posts

195 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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I think it would vary considerably depending if you were to do it all yorself or pay other people to do it..
I had a quote from RT to lift the body..Check..Repair and powder coat the chassis for around 5K...This included re-fitting all new bushes that i supplied...(£200)...Powder coating wishbones..Trailing arms..Diff carrier and any other bits i could throw in there..It was another 1.5K to have the suspension upgraded..£500 for a Diff overhaul..£450 for a gearbox rebuild...Exchanged rebuilt rear calipers from ward engineering..£130...Interior..2-2.5K that included the targa and replacement hood..Wheels..£250 upwards...Paint..Dependant on what you want 1K-5K...So in excess of 10K..And that without the electrics being touched or any re-veneering of woodwork!...You could probably cut that bill in half, Maybe more if you could do most of it yourself..Ziga

barrington

1,325 posts

261 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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I'm nearly 5 years into a resto on my 400se I've most of the work myself and I'm £5500 give or take with paint to do

JVaughan

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313 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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I was just taking stock of my Wedge ...
Want to change the paintwork from mica blue to something like Candy Bentley Blue



But I guess if Im going for a respray, then it would make sense to take the body off completely ... and while its off, maybe get the chassis fettled, do the brakes / dampers & springs, bushes, seals etc.

Mechanically, my Wedge is sound, the new Engine has less than 4000 miles on it since it was replaced, everything works, and the interior was done 8 years ago (carpets, seats, Hood etc).

Wheels are in good condition, but im tempted to get them refurbished (might speak to Paul Holland because I know he did his himself.

Might throw a pair of stainless manifolds into the equation too but thats about it

mikeb

2,869 posts

312 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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Only trouble is you will get what I call the 'Nacnud syndrome', ie. whilst I have the body off I might as well change the brake lines, fuel lines, swirl pot, calipers, fuel tanks, rear discs, diff, UJ's, engine mounts etc etc etc. Then its costs a fortune.

....then shortly after you sell the car.

My theory has proven to be true time and time again! ;-)

MikeyB

mikeb

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312 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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Jhonno

6,430 posts

171 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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How long is a piece of string...?

Mr Tank

5,799 posts

305 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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mikeb said:
Hi

Just seen this post and ref the SEAC as mike says is a very good example. Restored by its owner over a number of year and he then sold it with in 6 mths of it being finished.

Now the price to do a full nut and bolt rebuild, using out side people for somethings like paint work and diff a gearbox rebuilds is betwwen 10 to 13K

Back to the SEAC its at last at its true value now £19950.

Please somebody buy it its to good to miss!

Andy

JVaughan

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Thursday 4th July 2013
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mikeb said:
Only trouble is you will get what I call the 'Nacnud syndrome', ie. whilst I have the body off I might as well change the brake lines, fuel lines, swirl pot, calipers, fuel tanks, rear discs, diff, UJ's, engine mounts etc etc etc. Then its costs a fortune.

....then shortly after you sell the car.

My theory has proven to be true time and time again! ;-)

MikeyB
Ahh No, all those have already been done (except the fuel tanks & engine mounts). Plus having owned the car for the past 15 years, I dont think I could bring myself to sell it.

So... Duncan (nacad) sold his seac !.. I was wondering where he went to as his used to be at Peninsula more than mine !

JVaughan

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Thursday 4th July 2013
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mikeb said:
I was wondering too where DickyMints SEAC went to, last time I saw this it was belching smoke around the TOP Gear Track when we went to film Hot Metal (yes, im on that DVD too) biggrin

ibroker

658 posts

288 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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I bought a barn find 350i at the end of last year. I like everything perfect and soon found out I could easly spend
£15k to get the car as nice as I wanted. I duly sold it and bought a 400se that was well on the way to where i wanted to be for 50% of the cost.

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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Fill it with fuel - £75 quid. Job done. Drive it.

barrington

1,325 posts

261 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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i sold my 350i to bankroll the 400se when you start you cant stop new bushes then new bolts and washers water pipe ect ect what ever you think it will cost you double

Mr Tank

5,799 posts

305 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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barrington said:
i sold my 350i to bankroll the 400se when you start you cant stop new bushes then new bolts and washers water pipe ect ect what ever you think it will cost you double

And you are making a great job of it!

Andy

barrington

1,325 posts

261 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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cheers andy hoping to start the engine at the weekend fingers crossed

barrington

1,325 posts

261 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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love the colour
JVaughan said:
I was just taking stock of my Wedge ...
Want to change the paintwork from mica blue to something like Candy Bentley Blue



But I guess if Im going for a respray, then it would make sense to take the body off completely ... and while its off, maybe get the chassis fettled, do the brakes / dampers & springs, bushes, seals etc.

Mechanically, my Wedge is sound, the new Engine has less than 4000 miles on it since it was replaced, everything works, and the interior was done 8 years ago (carpets, seats, Hood etc).

Wheels are in good condition, but im tempted to get them refurbished (might speak to Paul Holland because I know he did his himself.

Might throw a pair of stainless manifolds into the equation too but thats about it
Edited by barrington on Thursday 4th July 19:49

ElvisWedgely

2,715 posts

195 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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There is no doubt that totally rebuilding a V8 Wedge is very costly and runs into many thousands of pounds, and, that's not even accounting for the many man hours put in by the owner. There are however a number of things that worries me about buying such a car. Especially one that has been rebuilt and sold on a short while after, as in the case of the red SEAC on sale at present. I would be much happier buying a car that was rebuilt by someone qualified to do the job properly. I have no way of knowing if the owner carried this job out to a good standard. It's like taking my car to a backstreet mechanic for a major overhaul, without knowing the level of their qualifications or skill. In any case, my view on all SEAC's is that they are overpriced anyway, based on it's rarity. This may be so, but it doesn't represent value for money, as I feel I am not getting that much more. Talking about rebuilt Wedges in general, buying one that had been totally rebuilt would be a dream come true, but, it would have to be one rebuilt by a reputable firm and by someone that know what they are doing. Let's face it. Such a rebuilt Wedge wouldn't be cheap, but at least my mind would be at rest knowing that it had been properly rebuilt.

This of course is just my opinion and is not intended to cause offence to those who may have built their cars at home.

Tony. TCB.

mikeb

2,869 posts

312 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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JVaughan said:
I was wondering too where DickyMints SEAC went to, last time I saw this it was belching smoke around the TOP Gear Track when we went to film Hot Metal (yes, im on that DVD too) biggrin
.....The Dickymint special is on my drive! ;-)

MikeyB

chapperssx

753 posts

201 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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Str8six seem to do ground up restorations.. Wow !!! Though at a cost i would imagen https://www.facebook.com/pages/Str8six/35374805130...

barrington

1,325 posts

261 months

Thursday 4th July 2013
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totally agree but then i trained to be a mechanic in my early years as my father owned his own garage