gearbox markings

[hallsie]

Does anyone know what the tag means on one of my gearboxes?

Its a type 9 ford box and has the same little tag as the differentials have indicating powerlock etc, it reads :-
73EGBA 9 E 17 on the tag and 75EG7A 40AB on the casing.

any ideas?

Stu

[mrzigazaga]

Hi Mate..I think the first set of numbers are the code numbers for the fitment of type of car..Year of manufacture..Whether its a 4 or 5 speed etc..I did have a look but couldnt find any info as to decoding the type 9 numbers..Ziga

[RCK974X]

As far as I know for the type 9, there are only 2 common gear sets (for UK cars at least), which is the 2.8i version and the 2.0/2.3 version.

They aren't all that different anyway, the 2.8 has a higher first gear and slightly closer ratios.

Of course there are a quite a few different speedo drive ratios to consider

I guess a Ford dealer is the only other way to find out for sure ?

Edited by RCK974X on Saturday 14th September 20:47

[hallsie]

this one is off of my Taimar and is a 4 speed.

Just thinking while its off Ill do the seals and gaskets.

[bluezeeland]

Hi Stu,

These peeps might know;

http://www.gearboxman.co.uk/index.html

however, I was told that the markings on the case, are just that, iow do not have a relation to the internals/ratio

What is it you are after ? If the idea is to put it on the Taimar, do know it needs some 'fettling' (the input shaft is to long for a start)

grtz

Frank

[hallsie]

bluezeeland said:

Hi Stu,

These peeps might know;

http://www.gearboxman.co.uk/index.html

however, I was told that the markings on the case, are just that, iow do not have a relation to the internals/ratio

What is it you are after ? If the idea is to put it on the Taimar, do know it needs some 'fettling' (the input shaft is to long for a start)

grtz

Frank

Hi Frank

Its the gearbox off of the Taimar, so Im thinking its not a type 9 now, should have looked at the rest of the casings..

So, what is it?

[Geoff38]

Hi Stu, I would guess you have a type 5 , 4 speed as standard , the type 9 is a five speed .

type 5


type 9


Cheers
Geoff.

[RCK974X]

Ah.. You confused me by putting that post in the wedges thread, not the classics !!

Those photos are good guide, I believe the top one as also known as a type 'E' ,
and the 5 speeder was developed from the earlier 4 speed type 'B' .

type E was behind the Essex, 2.3 Cortinas had the type B

Early Tasmins have the type 5 (E) box behind the 2.8 engine.

(I think that's the right way round with the letters !!)

[hallsie]

Geoff38 said:

Hi Stu, I would guess you have a type 5 , 4 speed as standard , the type 9 is a five speed .

type 5


type 9


Cheers
Geoff.

Thats the one Geoff, thanks

Thatll also explain why when looking at type 9 gaskets they werent correct!!

Stu

[bluezeeland]

Hi Stu,

The standard on the Taimar is a 4 speed, called type 5, the type 9 is a 5 speed, and to confuse matters even further the T5 (Borg-Warner, 5 speed) fits too.

The gaskets and all that for the standard type 5, are available at Burton power

grtz

Frank

[Geoff38]

So does a hybrid ford MT75......

[bluezeeland]

Geoff38 said:

So does a hybrid ford MT75......

I was merely referring to the type 5 v T5 connotation.......

[RCK974X]

As there is a discussion, here's my bit, as I understand it.

The early 4 speed box ('E' or type 5) fits both Essex and Colognes, as Ford made bellhousings for both engines. The 'E' is the strongest Ford box of the bunch.

The type 'B' 4 speeder (Smaller, from 2.0 OHC and 2.3 engines) will also fit the 2.8, as it's identical to the 2.3 at the clutch end. In another thread I discovered some later 2.8 Wedges have this box.

Therefore 5 speeder type 9 (or 'N') which is development of the 'B' can fit 2.0, 2.3, 2.8 as it can use same bellhousings as the 'B'. Also, this means it will fit all of the 4 pots including the Kent, as they have same bellhousing pattern, inc OHC 'pinto' engines.

5 speeder will not fit an Essex 'as standard' as Ford didn't make a bellhousing for this combination. But there are aftermarket ones.

I think the MT75 was for Colognes only ? Not sure about that...

T5 is a physically bigger and longer box (unless there's a short bellhousing), and only fitted behind a Cossie 4 pot originally (does this have a Kent bellhousing pattern?), but again aftermarket bellhousings are available for a lot of different engines... and it's stronger than ALL the Ford ones.

Arguments or more info anyone ? This is always useful to file away !!

Edited by RCK974X on Monday 16th September 00:13

[Geoff38]

Hi , The MT75 gearbox can be made to fit the essex V6 as a hybrid made from the front of a 4x4 ( to get the bellhousing bolt pattern ) and the rear of a 2wd box. I have done some research into these as was going to put a cossie 24v V6 engine ( which has the same bolt pattern as the essex ) into My taimar project. Apparently You can also fit the fifth gear from a transit box to give a higher ratio. I brought the different gearboxes to have one made up but then found one already done at a reasonable price. I also have a cossie 24v with a BW T5 gearbox attached via an adapted bellhousing in a taimar chassis from another project. also adaped to use a sierra diff. (This was all done by someone else prior to Me getting the chassis )
Cheers
G.

[Lotuselanman]

hallsie said:

this one is off of my Taimar and is a 4 speed.

Just thinking while its off Ill do the seals and gaskets.