Your thoughts please....

[Mr WST]

Question / advice please

My 420SE is currently in a state of a full engine rebuild. On that note, do I keep to the same NCK engine paying out of my nose for parts etc or go for a cheaper bigger complete engine option?
The reason I ask if I go for the bigger engine option will this devalue my car?
What are your thoughts if you were to buy a car with a bigger engine than the model states? Is it better to pay that extra monies and keep the car original with the same NCK 420 engine?

Cheers guys

Thack

[hallsie]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LANDROVER-RANGE-ROVER-4-...



Stu

[Mr WST]

Did look at that on Ebay yesterday mate....
Decisions decisions...

[mrzigazaga]

Hi Mate..I think you are worrying about something you might not even see the outcome of until you are 70 years of age..Again its treading down the anal originality path…I have only driven a 3.5 and TBH i find it bloody quick so i can only imagine what a 4.2 would be like.

The cost of parts varies a great deal and shopping around and researching is a must..There are these guys for parts which in the great scheme of things are not too bad although i can not recommend them or anyone for that matter..(Yet)..

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&...

Supercharging is a specialist application although effectively you can just bolt on and go…But any weaknesses anywhere in the engine will arise very quickly and violently!..If you are rebuilding an engine then go for the blower but if its being left in someone else's incapable/capable hands i would do a lot of research..I learnt a very costly lesson on supercharging the V6..Same rules apply on V8's…

Or if you go for a rebuild then maybe some head work, A different cam and a modern mappable ECU for fuelling would benefit you more than risking throwing 3K at a blown engine that ends up blowing up…

ORIGINAL = TRIGGERS BROOM…Ziga

[carob]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyjEIsQh4Wg

Rob

[mrzigazaga]

carob said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyjEIsQh4Wg

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[DavidY]

If you are that worried about potential resale cost, put the NCK in the corner of the garage, and fit whatever you wnat, you can always sell the car with the original engine then in the future.

[Trickie Dickie]

DavidY said:

If you are that worried about potential resale cost, put the NCK in the corner of the garage, and fit whatever you wnat, you can always sell the car with the original engine then in the future.

Thats a very good point Wayne

You wouldn't get much for the engine as it is now but could keep for future re transplanting

Rich

[Mr WST]

Thanks for the advice guys.
I am guessing at the moment the cheaper option maybe a new engine, keep the old one and repair over time. As you say sell with the car (not that i am) though when the time comes in my 90s i may have to sell.
Guess im thinking too much in to this!!!

Will see what transpires in the new year after the old engine has had a complete once over and a full picture is obtained on cost etc.

Thack

[wooly350i]

Just a note of caution however, I was reliably informed that dvla and vosa will be hotting up the official paperwork and regulations with regard to DIY engine transplants by insisting on vosa inspections of said vehicle which won't come cheap especially if its not to their liking, at present if the swap is declared you need to supply a detailed bill of sale/work or an insurance inspection certificate or AA / Rac inspections thus starting a clamp down on major home DIY work on ya car, I assume if you are paying at a garage to have the work done which will obviously entail the VAT cost as well things will sale through a lot easier,wooly.
All this of course is to keep the V5 in order with the correct engine number.

[TA14]

Trickie Dickie said:

DavidY said:

If you are that worried about potential resale cost, put the NCK in the corner of the garage, and fit whatever you wnat, you can always sell the car with the original engine then in the future.

Thats a very good point Wayne

You wouldn't get much for the engine as it is now but could keep for future re transplanting

This is the way forward. On a value view removing the original engine will reduce the value but putting in an undated, more powerful, RV8 will increase the value so overall probably a very slight increase.

[Mr Tank]

TA14 said:

Trickie Dickie said:

DavidY said:

If you are that worried about potential resale cost, put the NCK in the corner of the garage, and fit whatever you wnat, you can always sell the car with the original engine then in the future.

Thats a very good point Wayne

You wouldn't get much for the engine as it is now but could keep for future re transplanting

This is the way forward. On a value view removing the original engine will reduce the value but putting in an undated, more powerful, RV8 will increase the value so overall probably a very slight increase.

Hi Wayne

David and Trickie have got the best idea.
That way you can sort out the old engine at your leasure (If you want to)
The car is back on the road so you can enjoy her and the value of the car will still be the same.
The old engine is still with the car (On a stand but with it.) So it can be put back into it's orginal condition if required as per the V5.

Andy

[Mr WST]

Yes i think you are right if funds will not stretch to an engine rebuild
My only concern now is the comments of Wooly350i, this i will have to look into.

Thanks again

Thack

Mr Tank said:

Hi Wayne

David and Trickie have got the best idea.
That way you can sort out the old engine at your leasure (If you want to)
The car is back on the road so you can enjoy her and the value of the car will still be the same.
The old engine is still with the car (On a stand but with it.) So it can be put back into it's orginal condition if required as per the V5.

Andy

[smash]

If you haven't modified the chassis structure when swapping there's nothing for DVLA to moan about.

They're interested in whether there's been alerations that affect structural integrity (so all those bike engine mini conversions) then they can force you into the IVA inspection via point scoring. I registered the engine swap on my MR2 (Woodsport V6) earlier this year with no probs whatsoever

[MrPicky]

Keep the old engine and at the same time keep your eyes open for bits for it on Ebay and Pistonheads etc. - that way it might become more economical over time.

Russ

[wooly350i]

Hi again, 'smash' is correct with his comments but in addition to that I was informed to get things tidied up before the end of this year as things is gonna change.

[jon haines]

Many years ago I converted a tr7 to run on v8 and had to get an engineers report for the insurance and it was a nightmare, didnt cost a fortune for the report but took ages to sort out niggles before it was passed as ok. As regards values theres no sign of these cars really going up in value so I dont think it would cost you much if you came to sell but keeping the original engine is a good idea.

[jon haines]

Many years ago I converted a tr7 to run on v8 and had to get an engineers report for the insurance and it was a nightmare, didnt cost a fortune for the report but took ages to sort out niggles before it was passed as ok. As regards values theres no sign of these cars really going up in value so I dont think it would cost you much if you came to sell but keeping the original engine is a good idea.

[ibroker]

Values going up.

Put it in the garage for 20 years.

In 2033 a V8 will be pure history and in demand. Cars will be electric or something else.

V8 and petrol = Hardcore. ££££

[Mr WST]

Thanks for the advice, see what the outcome of the engine is first parts / cost etc. Then look at options....

Cheers

Thack