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Skyedriver

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23,448 posts

312 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Well, still haven't resolved the wiper saga but now have a situation, probably caused by me interfering, where I have high beam or high beam, no dip beam. So it's back under the dash to the relays, check the fuses and then look at the column switch. Hada quick peek last night at the switch but tire and late.

Skyedriver

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23,448 posts

312 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Pushed and pulled all relays and fuses without success
If I disconnect the column low/high beam switch at the plug, the headlights still work (high beam I think)
Is that right???

jindle

246 posts

155 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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On both sides or just one?

Wedg1e

27,038 posts

295 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Blown diode. Hang on while I retype the whole bloody reply that got lost because I wasn't logged in, apparently rolleyes ...

Wedg1e

27,038 posts

295 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Yes the lights should work with the Dip/Main switch unplugged; no they shouldn't be stuck on Main beam.
Here's a quick PaintShop butchery of the lights wiring diagram:



Assuming the Dip/Main switch is unplugged, there's nothing to stop the main lights switch from working. So it supplies 12V to the coil of the Headlamp Motor Lift relay (1) which energises to allow the pods to pop up (using the Headlamp Motor Control relay at 2a, but we can ignore that for now).
When the relay at (1) energises it sends 12V (2) to the control diodes at (3).
Diode D1 conducts to apply 12V to the coil of the Headlamp Control relay (4a) which energises and sends 12V feed to the Dip/Main relay (4b).
Normally this would be de-energised so this 12V feed passes through the relay's normally-closed contact and supplies the dipped beams.
However, if diode D2 (or D3 if fitted) was short-circuit and conducting both ways, it would allow the feed at (3) to reach the coil of the Dip/Main relay (4b). This is normally only energised by the Main beam or flash switches.
With the Dip/Main relay energised, it changes over and feeds the main beams instead of the dips... and it'll do this as long as the main lights switch is on.
To prove it, find the diodes (usually on or about the relay board), note the orientation (usually has a white band on one end) and unplug.

A short-circuit diode will measure zero resistance either way round on a multimeter.

Edit: typos. 'deef', instead of 'feed', FFS banghead

Skyedriver

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23,448 posts

312 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Thanks Ian
I'll try and have a look for that tonight, haven't seen anything "strange" around the relay box EXCEPT on the same socket as the delay wipe, which is loose from main board, there is a very short blue wire with a spade female at each end. Is that it, or what is that?
Cheers

Skyedriver

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23,448 posts

312 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Ian
THank you very much for all this
The very short blue wire that was in the side of the wiper delay relay is in fact the diode. Having taken it out to examine it, I put it back "upside down"
Still not sure why the wipers are not right and puzzled as to this delay relay in a loose holder, why is it not part of the board. Or is it somethig else.