Battery light?
Battery light?
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TVRIK

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892 posts

187 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Went to the car the other day, and Battery was flat as a pancake,
Anyhow... Charged it and it's now spot in again, loads if power.
But might battery light is now staying on while engine is running?

Any ideas guys?

Rik

mrzigazaga

18,814 posts

195 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Hi Mate...Sounds like the alternator is not charging the battery..You need to check to see if it is..If there is any weakness in a battery the cold will find it!..Ziga

QBee

22,493 posts

174 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Failing alternator (the cause of the flat battery)
Failed main fuse (do wedges have one?)

TVRIK

Original Poster:

892 posts

187 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Hmmmm well that's the thing, I haven't been driving it of late, I just start it, let it run for a bit. Keep things from Getting to cold etc
the battery was spot on... Left the car for a few days bearing in mind it was starting great,
Went to it and it was as flat as can be, maybe the courtesy light had been left on,
The battery light wasn't staying in before it went flat either.
And I haven't driven it, plus the goes brighter with revs.


jmorgan

36,010 posts

314 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Got a volt meter (multi meter etc etc )?

QBee

22,493 posts

174 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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I went on a track evening in the summer.
40 miles to Cadwell Park.
Drove all evening.
30 minutes before the end I thought I saw a faint red glimmer on the dash.
By the end of the session it was pretty bright.
Drove home, really bright light by the time I got home.
Alternator fubarred.
New one ordered and fitted.
Problem gone.

Alternators fail gradually. Looks like yours might be going. No saying just how charged your battery was the previous week.

I could be wrong. It could also be a failing battery, but I don't remember seeing the battery light when mine did.

ElvisWedgely

2,715 posts

195 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Start the engine and warm it up. Let engine idle and connect voltmeter between terminals. It should read 14.5V. If not, the alternator or it's diodes are failing. From what you describe about the light going brighter with revs sounds like faulty diodes of the Alternator. I hope that helps.

Tony. TCB.

TVRIK

Original Poster:

892 posts

187 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Thanks guys

Looks like it's defo pointing to altimator, don't have a tester,
Are the diods easy to change, never touched an alternator apart from tightening the fan belt!

Rik

400SE Dave

1,305 posts

201 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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I know this sounds obvious but is the alternator belt on?? Last year I was out for a run in mine and the light came on, lifted the bonnet to find the nut that held the alternator pulley on had come loose and the pulley had come off. Belt was roughly in the right place, I didn't twig it for a few minutes!!

Someone said to me once that it takes a good 1 hour run to replace the charge starting the car takes out of the battery, perhaps that is part of it?? Do you have a conditioner for when it is parked up???

QBee

22,493 posts

174 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Multimeter Maplins £7.99.

TVRIK

Original Poster:

892 posts

187 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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400SE Dave said:
I know this sounds obvious but is the alternator belt on?? Last year I was out for a run in mine and the light came on, lifted the bonnet to find the nut that held the alternator pulley on had come loose and the pulley had come off. Belt was roughly in the right place, I didn't twig it for a few minutes!!

Someone said to me once that it takes a good 1 hour run to replace the charge starting the car takes out of the battery, perhaps that is part of it?? Do you have a conditioner for when it is parked up???
Now then!! You could be onto something there,
I noticed the belt was a bit slack, at the same time I was replacing the charged battery..
Do I nipped it up... I'll check that in the morning, cheers Dave.... Oh how do you mean conditioner where it's parked??

Rik

TVRIK

Original Poster:

892 posts

187 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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QBee said:
Multimeter Maplins £7.99.
Nice one Anthony, I'm actually going to Maplins tomorrow anyway!

Rik

matt-man

2,667 posts

249 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Get yourself a multimeter... They are cheap and a must for the garage.

Batteries don't last forever and as cold cranking is so heavy you need a good battery.

Tip for you...the better Bosch (silver top) are better at being stood and I've had mine 4 years now and its still going strong..

mrzigazaga

18,814 posts

195 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Hi Mate..a battery conditioner helps to keep the battery charged whilst the car sits in a garage...Unfortunately i can't recommend any as i don't use them..My wedge is my daily drive..Unless its pishing down..You can buy alternator diode/Rectifier packs but get yours tested first..Obviously make sure the belt is the right tightness also..Not too tight, I think its about 5mm over and under the level line..= 10mm total..Ziga

400SE Dave

1,305 posts

201 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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mrzigazaga said:
..a battery conditioner helps to keep the battery charged whilst the car sits in a garage...
Yep, that is it. I use an Airflow conditioner on mine, it is connected whenever the car is parked up and they are suppossed to cycle the battery as well as keeping it topped up. Difference to a charger is it clicks on and off as needed.

You can get Airflow ones on line for around £40, there are many others also.

TVRIK

Original Poster:

892 posts

187 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Nice one guys... Gonna check the tension on the belt first I think,


Mr Tank

5,799 posts

305 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Hi Rik

A battery conditioner will keep your battry charged and will extend the batt life, but first you must have a good battery and a working alternator, because with out those no conditioner will stop your problem.

Get your alternator checked after you have checked the drive belt is OK. If they are OK then its a n_ _ _ _ _d battery.

Also if you have an alarm, or immobilser fitted they can easily drain your batt, but not as bad as leaving an interior light on.

If you want a conditioner the Accumate is a good battery conditioner to have, it's not the cheapest nor the most expensive but the one most people use who have them.
I use them for my collection. I even have a couple of the vehicles with them built in so I can connect them any were there's a power socket I can use!

Andy

TVRIK

Original Poster:

892 posts

187 months

Thursday 2nd January 2014
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Mr Tank said:
Hi Rik

A battery conditioner will keep your battry charged and will extend the batt life, but first you must have a good battery and a working alternator, because with out those no conditioner will stop your problem.

Get your alternator checked after you have checked the drive belt is OK. If they are OK then its a n_ _ _ _ _d battery.

Also if you have an alarm, or immobilser fitted they can easily drain your batt, but not as bad as leaving an interior light on.

If you want a conditioner the Accumate is a good battery conditioner to have, it's not the cheapest nor the most expensive but the one most people use who have them.
I use them for my collection. I even have a couple of the vehicles with them built in so I can connect them any were there's a power socket I can use!

Andy

Cheers Andy, I'm redoing the interior at the moment, so think I may have caught the interior light, I have to say, before and now the batt is charged, it sounds very strong!

I'll check the alt it's funny that I altered the tension in the belt, then it stated, didn't think till Dave400 mentioned it.

Thanks again mate

Rik

Wedg1e

27,038 posts

295 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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The most comon cause of alternator 'failure' (especially on quarter-century-old cars) is worn carbon brushes. Costs about £12 to change them.

keatsie

326 posts

194 months

Friday 3rd January 2014
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Yep, worn out brushes or diode in rectifier failed. Suggest you check as per Tanks suggestion, but sounds like the alternator.