Those lovely inboard rear brakes ...
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Don't you just love em!!!!
Well as I had a day free and the weather looked dry and I had a new set of Ferrodo pads it was time to sort out that annoying brake squeak when the brakes were hot! The last time I did this job I had the diff and drive shafts off the car and on the floor. How difficult can it be! - Kiss of death
So car jacked up and on axle stands, wheels off, good light, gloves on and into the breach dear friends.
First the little R clips on the caliper pins were nicely corroded on and after copious amounts of releasing spray 3 out of the 4 snapped with 2 of them leaving a little piece behind just for entertainment value. Simple things like driving the retainer pins out become a nightmare due to access and corrosion, the bottom ones eventually succumbed to my attentions but the top ones are nicely set behind the diagonal chassis member
After an hour of wrestling one side came out
Found the culprits:
Lots of cleaning and checking of seals etc and all was good but the weather / heat certainly gets to these parts. All the handbrake linkage was checked and lubricated. (The handbrake pads were almost untouched and in good condition) New Ferrodo's pads in, copper greased along with new mini R clips. The retaining pins were very corroded so popped them into the electric drill and cleaned them off and also copper greased them.
So over to the other side basically same story but at least I knew what challenges awaited me!!!
Time for the job 4.5 testing hours!
Cost - Nothing as I had the pads + industrial amounts of coffee
Sense of humour - failed on at least 2 occasions
Work place injuries - various small joint and skin abrasions!!!
Sense of achievement - not measurable
Would I do it again in situ - probably not but it can be done guys!
Points to note ..... keep an eye on the rear brakes and calipers they need to be checked regularly I dread to think of what could have happened if the pad material had eventually detached
BTW the ones I took out were Mintex......so should have been reasonably good quality.....
Chris
Well as I had a day free and the weather looked dry and I had a new set of Ferrodo pads it was time to sort out that annoying brake squeak when the brakes were hot! The last time I did this job I had the diff and drive shafts off the car and on the floor. How difficult can it be! - Kiss of death
So car jacked up and on axle stands, wheels off, good light, gloves on and into the breach dear friends.
First the little R clips on the caliper pins were nicely corroded on and after copious amounts of releasing spray 3 out of the 4 snapped with 2 of them leaving a little piece behind just for entertainment value. Simple things like driving the retainer pins out become a nightmare due to access and corrosion, the bottom ones eventually succumbed to my attentions but the top ones are nicely set behind the diagonal chassis member
After an hour of wrestling one side came out Found the culprits:
Lots of cleaning and checking of seals etc and all was good but the weather / heat certainly gets to these parts. All the handbrake linkage was checked and lubricated. (The handbrake pads were almost untouched and in good condition) New Ferrodo's pads in, copper greased along with new mini R clips. The retaining pins were very corroded so popped them into the electric drill and cleaned them off and also copper greased them.
So over to the other side basically same story but at least I knew what challenges awaited me!!!
Time for the job 4.5 testing hours!
Cost - Nothing as I had the pads + industrial amounts of coffee
Sense of humour - failed on at least 2 occasions
Work place injuries - various small joint and skin abrasions!!!
Sense of achievement - not measurable
Would I do it again in situ - probably not but it can be done guys!
Points to note ..... keep an eye on the rear brakes and calipers they need to be checked regularly I dread to think of what could have happened if the pad material had eventually detached
BTW the ones I took out were Mintex......so should have been reasonably good quality.....
Chris
Agreed they are a pain in the arse. I have this to look forward to soon as my pads are getting a bit low. At least I have freed off one side already just the passenger side to get to grips with.
Some tips though for next time ;^)
- use brake fluid instead of releasing spray (old bled out stuff is fine) and dab it on a week before you do the job so it really soaks in.
If the rears let go then it's not a fatal problem as it's the fronts that stop the car. Although it won't stop quite as quickly....
Some tips though for next time ;^)
- use brake fluid instead of releasing spray (old bled out stuff is fine) and dab it on a week before you do the job so it really soaks in.
If the rears let go then it's not a fatal problem as it's the fronts that stop the car. Although it won't stop quite as quickly....
Ahhhh, Chris
A simple call to me would have revealed a differential with carrier and brakes, along with everything needed is sat under my bench, just ready for someone to refurb and drop in!!
You could even have sat at my bench and done it in comfort as I have now cleared the garage floor of 'stuff'!
Joking aside though, I do plan on sending the diff away for rebuild @ £130, or there abouts, and the calipers rebuilt for around £60 each so that I can straight swap it into the blue one very soon.
Ill be in touch for when I need help with the body removal!!
Stu
A simple call to me would have revealed a differential with carrier and brakes, along with everything needed is sat under my bench, just ready for someone to refurb and drop in!!
You could even have sat at my bench and done it in comfort as I have now cleared the garage floor of 'stuff'!
Joking aside though, I do plan on sending the diff away for rebuild @ £130, or there abouts, and the calipers rebuilt for around £60 each so that I can straight swap it into the blue one very soon.
Ill be in touch for when I need help with the body removal!!
Stu
Rear brakes are indeed jag inboard ones. Used on many jags from 60s + 70s inc XJ saloons XJS and E types
As Chris says an easy job made bloody difficult due to position and lack of access
Replaced the calipers on my old 280 - think it took around 5 hrs in total due to everything being siezed
Ron
As Chris says an easy job made bloody difficult due to position and lack of access
Replaced the calipers on my old 280 - think it took around 5 hrs in total due to everything being siezed
Ron
Haven't got a TVR - too scared so I've got an MX5, but read all the posts with interest as I probably will have one at some point...
I have changed the rear pads and handbrake pads on a variety of Jaguars over the years and nothing can be worse than that! I've known people cut hatches in the cars floor to do the job! If it's anything like as much fun doing the rear brakes on a Trevor as it is on a Jag, then you guys have my utmost sympathy.
I have changed the rear pads and handbrake pads on a variety of Jaguars over the years and nothing can be worse than that! I've known people cut hatches in the cars floor to do the job! If it's anything like as much fun doing the rear brakes on a Trevor as it is on a Jag, then you guys have my utmost sympathy.
ElvisWedgely said:
Are the rear inboards Jaguar pads and discs ? Can anyone tell me which Jaguar and what the pads are as I too may be servising the rear brakes too.
Tony.TCB.
Rear pads were Mintex ref MGB521, they are universal for many cars and available in different compounds. I guess you can get the ref number for other makes off the web if you put in this Mintex codeTony.TCB.
If you are in the Birmingham area I and several local TVR owners have used Central Axle in Spark Brook. Not in the most salubrious area but they have been at it for years and know their way round the Salisbury 4HU limited slip Diff’s. They are used by local council and Police and ambulance services.
All new bearings and oil seals re shimmed cleaned and painted with new breather £350
http://www.centralaxles.com/
All new bearings and oil seals re shimmed cleaned and painted with new breather £350
http://www.centralaxles.com/
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