Man maths power to weight
Man maths power to weight
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gmw9666

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2,739 posts

230 months

Sunday 23rd March 2014
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Just sat having a beer or two and wondered what sort of gain my wedge diet is going to having

Using the calcs from here http://www.tuneruniversity.com/blog/2012/03/power-...

so using conservative figures of kerb weight at 2400lbs (likely less) and Bhp of 260 (likely more)

An approx weight saving of 200lbs or 14 stone in old money. to put that into context my old seats were almost 4 stone for the pair!!! So easily achievable.

So 200lbs will give a theoretical 25bhp gain in power, that's almost 10% cool hey

Back to the beer :-)

Edited by gmw9666 on Sunday 23 March 20:50

mrzigazaga

18,814 posts

195 months

Sunday 23rd March 2014
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In reality mate i lost two stone and noticed a massive gain in performance..(The Wedge that is)...So losing the carbs really does gain power... smile

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

162 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Getting rid of that fibreglass body would be a good start. TVR Atom?

gmw9666

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2,739 posts

230 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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V8 Fettler said:
Getting rid of that fibreglass body would be a good start. TVR Atom?
Now there's an idea lol

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Hi Glen - looks like yours has a removable rear bumper?

If you take it off you'll find around 20-40 4" diameter packing washers (which adjust the bumper mount).

Together these weigh around 2-3 lbs. If you make up some lighter "packing" of the same height on each side - for example a tube with a plate welded across each end then drilled for the bolt - there's a considerable weight saving there.

Also how about an alloy flywheel? A lighter starter motor? A carbon plenum? A lightweight bonnet (could be expensive unless you can get carbon nice and cheap..)?

mrzigazaga

18,814 posts

195 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Remove the rear seats...Ang on...It don't have any...hehe
To be fair if you are not going to race it then i wouldn't worry too much about saving weight...I think the power to weight ratio for a road going car is more than adequate..Even more so with a supercharged V8....You could always reinstate the NOS...yikes

Just had a brainwave...Fill some balloons with helium and stuff them in every available nook and cranny...Simples..

Edited by mrzigazaga on Monday 24th March 09:18

jmorgan

36,010 posts

314 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Removal of safety aids helps a lot.

gmw9666

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2,739 posts

230 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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adam quantrill said:
Hi Glen - looks like yours has a removable rear bumper?

If you take it off you'll find around 20-40 4" diameter packing washers (which adjust the bumper mount).

Together these weigh around 2-3 lbs. If you make up some lighter "packing" of the same height on each side - for example a tube with a plate welded across each end then drilled for the bolt - there's a considerable weight saving there.

Also how about an alloy flywheel? A lighter starter motor? A carbon plenum? A lightweight bonnet (could be expensive unless you can get carbon nice and cheap..)?
A lightweight bonnet could be an interesting option, good idea............will ask about in the racer section, the bonnet is quite heavy

Also the headlights, loose the pods and do something like this.......didn't Steve Heath's Purple wedge have something similar

as for why I'm doing this, well you all know the car and its pretty well modified, so I just fancied putting my own stamp on it and plan to do a few track days, be a shame not to put all that power to good use




wooly350i

2,248 posts

238 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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[quote=jmorgan]Removal of safety aids helps a lot.[/quote
No wearing of condom as a helmet then...!!!!!!

jmorgan

36,010 posts

314 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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wooly350i]morgan said:
Removal of safety aids helps a lot.[/quote
No wearing of condom as a helmet then...!!!!!!
Nah..... the Ta ta ching is ready.......

wedgemaniac456

245 posts

180 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Had the bonnet off mine yesterday was quite surprised how much it weighed.Steve Heaths purple wedge had over 500 bhp per ton.It was a 5.2litre with a vortech supercharger,and water injected.The bonnet was off a caterham,and yes perspex windows and lamp covers.

gmw9666

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2,739 posts

230 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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wedgemaniac456 said:
Had the bonnet off mine yesterday was quite surprised how much it weighed.Steve Heaths purple wedge had over 500 bhp per ton.It was a 5.2litre with a vortech supercharger,and water injected.The bonnet was off a caterham,and yes perspex windows and lamp covers.
whaaaaooow.........now that must have been fun to watch and a handful to drive

wedgemaniac456

245 posts

180 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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Serious bit of kit was in practical performance car, started off as a 390 se.Has the 310mm discs front and steves own wishbones.

wooly350i

2,248 posts

238 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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jmorgan said:
wooly350i]morgan said:
Removal of safety aids helps a lot.[/quote
No wearing of condom as a helmet then...!!!!!!
Nah..... the Ta ta ching is ready.......
Ive got a welsh friend up the road, im sure he'll translate.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

314 months

Monday 24th March 2014
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wooly350i said:
jmorgan said:
wooly350i]morgan said:
Removal of safety aids helps a lot.[/quote
No wearing of condom as a helmet then...!!!!!!
Nah..... the Ta ta ching is ready.......
Ive got a welsh friend up the road, im sure he'll translate.
No one biting. Safety device is the wife..... ta ta ching (pretend I have a drum set....) or boom boom...


Pah! going over here to kick a brick.

gmw9666

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2,739 posts

230 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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adam quantrill said:
Hi Glen - looks like yours has a removable rear bumper?

If you take it off you'll find around 20-40 4" diameter packing washers (which adjust the bumper mount).

Together these weigh around 2-3 lbs. If you make up some lighter "packing" of the same height on each side - for example a tube with a plate welded across each end then drilled for the bolt - there's a considerable weight saving there.

Also how about an alloy flywheel? A lighter starter motor? A carbon plenum? A lightweight bonnet (could be expensive unless you can get carbon nice and cheap..)?
No washers and bumper weighs about the same as a sill. Mr Rusty has helped on weight saving though lol


ElvisWedgely

2,715 posts

195 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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One factor everyone is overlooking is the drag resistance of a wide tyre on the road. I recon a Wedge fitted with four narrow get you home tyres would go like a bullet, and be economic on fuel too. Has anyone tried it? No? I think someone should, and report the results. You may all be pleasantly surprised and abandon those after market blower ideas!

Tony.TCB.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

314 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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Jebus. Having to travel 70 odd miles on a space saver was scary, mind you the others were normal. The lorries were rocking up behind me at warp 2 and I could only do warp 1, not the usual 9. Got a few irate lorries giving me grief. May the the fleas of a thousand camels infect their @rse 'oles.

Edited by jmorgan on Friday 28th March 13:31

wedgemaniac456

245 posts

180 months

Friday 28th March 2014
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If your looking for more power from your rv8 there is a project in ppc magazine that is using a rover v8 with lotus 907 heads.Four cams and twin turbos 1000 bhp eek it would gain a bit of weight though,but that wouldnt be a problem,it might stop you becoming air bourne laugh