Alternative Rear Lights......

[GV]

Well my little Beast is ready for its Summer jaunt pending a year's road tax. Just thought I would Inspire or Annoy my fellow Wedgers...with my rear end I decided to forget about respraying until next year despite the body mods front and rear...

Hope to meet up with some of you Southern boys soon....Andy

[mrzigazaga]

........Only messing mate...Looks fabulous..We are meeting this saturday at either the Diner or a new place which has just opened, I will find out more tomorrow.

TITT on Sunday if you fancy it?....

Be good to finally meet you...Cheers...Ziga

[GV]

mrzigazaga said:

........Only messing mate...Looks fabulous..We are meeting this saturday at either the Diner or a new place which has just opened, I will find out more tomorrow.

TITT on Sunday if you fancy it?....

Be good to finally meet you...Cheers...Ziga

Let me tax it first still got to balance the front tyres and align the steering.....btw I need the the front alignment settings if you have them!1

[mrzigazaga]

GV said:

I need the the front alignment settings if you have them

Let me just dig them out...2 mins...

Here we go...

Here are the generic settings for all Wedges:

The tracking should be set at 3.2mm toe-in +/- 1.5mm

Caster: 3.5 - 4.0 deg. pos.
Camber (F) 1.0 deg. neg.
Camber (R) 1.0 - 1.5 deg. neg.
Toe (in) (F) 0.50 deg.
Toe (in) (R) 2MM - don't know why MM not deg!

2mm on 15inch rims = 0.30 degrees = 18 minutes
2mm on 17inch rims = 0.27 degrees = 16 minutes
Either way it's just a smidge toe in.

15 inch rims 3.2mm toe gives 0.24 degrees wheel to vehicle center-line or 0.48 degrees wheel to wheel.

14 inch rims 3.2mm toe gives 0.26 degrees wheel to vehicle center-line or 0.52 degrees wheel to wheel.

For the front
toe is 3.2 +/- 1.5mm
camber is 0 +/- 1.2 degres (not adjustable anyway is it?)
caster is 31.2 +/- 0.5 degrees
KPI 6 degrees (Not sure what this is?
For the rear
toe is 4.5mm
camber is 0.5 +/- 0.5 degrees (this seems small as the wheels have a visible camber)

Hope this helps...Ziga

Edited by mrzigazaga on Thursday 19th June 18:55

[chapperssx]

Always thought you car looks great Andrew ! Plus not all that far away from you so would be up for a catch up once your beast is on the road... I sometimes meet Zig at Boxhill so maybe we could meet there ? Plus there are one or two other that live in the area that may be up for jaunt some where !

[Toby Tram]

Looks fantastic Andy.

I assume you guys are not so far from me then as I know Chappers went to the Breakfast Club the other week.

I'm in Bognor Regis.

Adi

[mrzigazaga]

I was thinking of meeting up with Martin next week at some point if anyone else is about, Although it will probably be during the week....Ziga

[wooly350i]

GV said:

Well my little Beast is ready for its Summer jaunt pending a year's road tax. Just thought I would Inspire or Annoy my fellow Wedgers...with my rear end I decided to forget about respraying until next year despite the body mods front and rear...

Hope to meet up with some of you Southern boys soon....Andy

Personally I think that looks spot on, like a lot.

[beacon]

wooly350i said:

GV said:

Well my little Beast is ready for its Summer jaunt pending a year's road tax. Just thought I would Inspire or Annoy my fellow Wedgers...with my rear end I decided to forget about respraying until next year despite the body mods front and rear...

Hope to meet up with some of you Southern boys soon....Andy

Personally I think that looks spot on, like a lot.

I think out of all the alternatives I have seen, this one stands up the best for rear light clusters, must be something to do with the crispness and depth of the holes and the round lamps keep the retro feel. Well-done.

[Toby Tram]

GV said:

Well my little Beast is ready for its Summer jaunt pending a year's road tax. Just thought I would Inspire or Annoy my fellow Wedgers...with my rear end I decided to forget about respraying until next year despite the body mods front and rear...

Hope to meet up with some of you Southern boys soon....Andy

Andy, what are the lights from? ......and how did you create the recess?

Seriously thining about doing that to mine!!

Adi

[GV]

Toby Tram said:

Andy, what are the lights from? ......and how did you create the recess?

Seriously thining about doing that to mine!!

Adi

Adi - the lights are from a Fiat GT Turbo Coupe. The lights themselves are installed into their respective cups that form the recess - its a single unit with a pair of cups/lights installed. What I did was to chop out and separate each cup from the unit and chopped it so it would sit nicely into the holes I cut into the old wedge lamp. The old lamp unit was stripped, cut and bonded into place and then filled, sanded and shaped to what you see in the pic.

The cups were angled to suit what I thought was the best look for my car although they can angled to suit your taste. You need to watch out as the cups have different lengths so make sure you pair them up for each side otherwise you will end up with 2 different light clusters either side. If you're ok with bodywork it is a relatively straight forward job, If not it will be awkward and fiddly and you will need patience and an eye for detail. The best way I guess is to to get a mould made up by a GRP specialist...

Based on my own experience the only part of the Wedge lamp unit I would use next time would be the corner section. I would use this as the base to finish of the rear wing which I did on my car - this was cut from the main unit. I would GRP the remaining gap and discard the rest of the light unit. The gap should filled before cutting out the holes is situ for the cups. The cups would then be bonded into place with GRP or filler.

I wanted a flush look so I filled over the lips of each cup and then blocked it out to get the final shape. Again you might like the cups with the rebate look in which case the cups would need to sit proud of your rear wing.

I took the view that I was doing something unique for my car so I made it up as I went along so hopefully you will benefit from my experience if you have a go..

Drop me a line if you need any more info. By the way the reverse lights are made by Hella...

Edited by GV on Friday 20th June 21:08

[wedgeman]

GV said:

Well my little Beast is ready for its Summer jaunt pending a year's road tax. Just thought I would Inspire or Annoy my fellow Wedgers...with my rear end I decided to forget about respraying until next year despite the body mods front and rear...

Hope to meet up with some of you Southern boys soon....Andy

[Toby Tram]

GV said:

Adi - the lights are from a Fiat GT Turbo Coupe. The lights themselves are installed into their respective cups that form the recess - its a single unit with a pair of cups/lights installed. What I did was to chop out and separate each cup from the unit and chopped it so it would sit nicely into the holes I cut into the old wedge lamp. The old lamp unit was stripped, cut and bonded into place and then filled, sanded and shaped to what you see in the pic.

The cups were angled to suit what I thought was the best look for my car although they can angled to suit your taste. You need to watch out as the cups have different lengths so make sure you pair them up for each side otherwise you will end up with 2 different light clusters either side. If you're ok with bodywork it is a relatively straight forward job, If not it will be awkward and fiddly and you will need patience and an eye for detail. The best way I guess is to to get a mould made up by a GRP specialist...

Based on my own experience the only part of the Wedge lamp unit I would use next time would be the corner section. I would use this as the base to finish of the rear wing which I did on my car - this was cut from the main unit. I would GRP the remaining gap and discard the rest of the light unit. The gap should filled before cutting out the holes is situ for the cups. The cups would then be bonded into place with GRP or filler.

I wanted a flush look so I filled over the lips of each cup and then blocked it out to get the final shape. Again you might like the cups with the rebate look in which case the cups would need to sit proud of your rear wing.

I took the view that I was doing something unique for my car so I made it up as I went along so hopefully you will benefit from my experience if you have a go..

Drop me a line if you need any more info. By the way the reverse lights are made by Hella...

Edited by GV on Friday 20th June 21:08

So did I understand correctly that you bonded the rear light lenses in place with holes in them for the cups? My lenses are fairly flush with the bodywork. If that's the case what did you use as body filler over the lenses?

I had a look at the Fiat rear end and I understand the basics of what you mean. Did you cut a section from a Fiat at the scrapyard? If so, how much did the light units cost you?

[JumboBeef]

I do like it.........but what about the rear reflectors?

[GV]

Toby Tram said:

So did I understand correctly that you bonded the rear light lenses in place with holes in them for the cups? My lenses are fairly flush with the bodywork. If that's the case what did you use as body filler over the lenses?

I had a look at the Fiat rear end and I understand the basics of what you mean. Did you cut a section from a Fiat at the scrapyard? If so, how much did the light units cost you?

Yes I filled over the rebates to get a flush finnish. I got my lights off eebay. The orginals have a reverse and rer fog - I got another rear fog so they could both match with the indicators..

[Toby Tram]

Well you've made a pukka job of that. Really impressed!

A.

[Waynester]

Looks good.. Certainly changes the rear look. Top job.

[GV]

GV said:

Well my little Beast is ready for its Summer jaunt pending a year's road tax. Just thought I would Inspire or Annoy my fellow Wedgers...with my rear end I decided to forget about respraying until next year despite the body mods front and rear...

Hope to meet up with some of you Southern boys soon....Andy

Hi Mark - hope this helps...

[mrzigazaga]

Thanks mate...I did find it eventually...

[adam quantrill]

I wonder what the legal position is... the car was type approved with the Fuego light clusters. If you get rear-ended and then the first party finds out the brake lights are modded, they might be a bit reluctant to pay out?

Just wondering.