TVR 450se
TVR 450se
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JumboBeef

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3,772 posts

200 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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Missing my 400, so I'm at the very start of considering the possibility of maybe at some point in the future that I may begin the long search to have a look at, with the remote possibility, of finding a fine example of that rare beast, the 450se. se, not seac.

How much would a good one go for? Good condition, no major jobs to do, but not looking for a micro mile museum piece. I want to drive and enjoy it!

Any out there?

mrzigazaga

18,757 posts

188 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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My personal view is a fine fettled 450SE should be in excess of 15K..If its a minter than probably closer to 20K.

ElvisWedgely

2,715 posts

188 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Good luck with your search for a 450SE Jumbo. I'll keep my ear to the ground and keep you informed if anything comes up.

Tony. TCB.

rev-erend

21,597 posts

307 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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How many 450se were made .. was it 18 ?

pwd95

8,438 posts

261 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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35

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

236 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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depends on how much of a purest you are, as you could get a 400SE and then just get a well sorted 4.6 or 5.x fitted, and have over 300 BHP, with a modern ECU, should have less problems as well as have a very fast Wedge.

ElvisWedgely

2,715 posts

188 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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TVRleigh_BBWR said:
depends on how much of a purest you are, as you could get a 400SE and then just get a well sorted 4.6 or 5.x fitted, and have over 300 BHP, with a modern ECU, should have less problems as well as have a very fast Wedge.
It all depends what you want. If you want an original for its historic values and an investment, then it's better to keep to an original 450 and pay the premium. If you just want a reliable and a fast wedge, then it's worth fitting a modern 500 and just enjoy. To tell you the truth, I used to own an original 450 and I didn't see much difference from a well sorted and tuned 400.

Tony.TCB.

JumboBeef

Original Poster:

3,772 posts

200 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Thanks for the replies.

ElvisWedgely said:
To tell you the truth, I used to own an original 450 and I didn't see much difference from a well sorted and tuned 400.
Yes, but the 450 goes up to 11!

ElvisWedgely

2,715 posts

188 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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JumboBeef said:
Thanks for the replies.

ElvisWedgely said:
To tell you the truth, I used to own an original 450 and I didn't see much difference from a well sorted and tuned 400.
Yes, but the 450 goes up to 11!
You've lost me there Jumbo. Goes up to 11 what?

Tony. TCB.


JumboBeef

Original Poster:

3,772 posts

200 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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ElvisWedgely said:
JumboBeef said:
Thanks for the replies.

ElvisWedgely said:
To tell you the truth, I used to own an original 450 and I didn't see much difference from a well sorted and tuned 400.
Yes, but the 450 goes up to 11!
You've lost me there Jumbo. Goes up to 11 what?

Tony. TCB.
Not a Spinal Tap fan then Tony?

https://youtu.be/uMSV4OteqBE

ElvisWedgely

2,715 posts

188 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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JumboBeef said:
Not a Spinal Tap fan then Tony?

https://youtu.be/uMSV4OteqBE
Oh! Are we talking sound.? I've known a few 400's that can reach very high decibels. More than adequate I'd say.

Tony. TCB.

Pompeyboy

5 posts

132 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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JumboBeef said:
Missing my 400, so I'm at the very start of considering the possibility of maybe at some point in the future that I may begin the long search to have a look at, with the remote possibility, of finding a fine example of that rare beast, the 450se. se, not seac.

How much would a good one go for? Good condition, no major jobs to do, but not looking for a micro mile museum piece. I want to drive and enjoy it!

Any out there?

I bought a well sorted 450SE March this year and paid £12k, as far as I was concerned this was good value.

mrzigazaga

18,757 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Pompeyboy said:

I bought a well sorted 450SE March this year and paid £12k, as far as I was concerned this was good value.
Definitely...Worth 15K all day long!
I have heard that a well sorted 350i can be as quick as a 400SE but a 400SE quicker than a 450SE......I think we have a challenge for next years BBWF...."FIGHT"...(Bit of fun at the end of the day)...Ziga

stevoj

798 posts

184 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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Pompeyboy said:

I bought a well sorted 450SE March this year and paid £12k, as far as I was concerned this was good value.
Where's your pics? bounce

Pompeyboy

5 posts

132 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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stevoj said:
http://www.hagleycar.com/cars/car985.html

pics from dealer i bought it from


Where's your pics? bounce

gmw9666

2,739 posts

223 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Pompeyboy said:
OMG I saw that and was very nearly tempted but it was up for strong money, its very very nice (Gandalfs old motor from memory).......your link doesn't work but this one does = http://bay2car.com/TVR-TASMIN-WEDGE-450SE-4-5-V8-3...

Very Jealous and even more jealous you only paid 12k, well done



mrzigazaga

18,757 posts

188 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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Looks like Jimbo's old Wedge...Very nice indeed and worth every penny!....Ziga

Pompeyboy

5 posts

132 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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gmw9666 said:
Yes very pleased with it, always wanted a 450se from a young age and never thought I'd find one. I've made do with a 350i for the last 13 years and now looking to move this on, its on ebay, getting quite a bit if interest but no bids yet...

OMG I saw that and was very nearly tempted but it was up for strong money, its very very nice (Gandalfs old motor from memory).......your link doesn't work but this one does = http://bay2car.com/TVR-TASMIN-WEDGE-450SE-4-5-V8-3...

Very Jealous and even more jealous you only paid 12k, well done

Matt450

35 posts

142 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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TVRleigh_BBWR said:
depends on how much of a purest you are, as you could get a 400SE and then just get a well sorted 4.6 or 5.x fitted, and have over 300 BHP, with a modern ECU, should have less problems as well as have a very fast Wedge.
If I were to do it all again I would seriously consider the above.

I wanted some headwork done to my 450SE, but that uncovered excessive wear in the block. That then meant either a rebuild of the existing block or replacement with a new bigger, stronger block. Money was around the same, so I went with the latter.

The car has been mapped at 333bhp on Canems, not fully run in. I'm now having the gearbox replaced with a new T5 WC box, with all the incidentals, and the wishbones modified to try and do something about the bump steer.

When I'm finished I believe that this will be a very fast, reliable and manageable car, which I intend to keep for a very long time.

However, I'm conscious that the car will be far from an original 450SE.

In my defence, the old block sits on a pallet in my garage (and could be rebuilt and reunited with the head should circumstances dictate), but I could have done all this work to a 400SE and felt less guilty about it!

Matt

pwd95

8,438 posts

261 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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Matt450 said:
If I were to do it all again I would seriously consider the above.

I wanted some headwork done to my 450SE, but that uncovered excessive wear in the block. That then meant either a rebuild of the existing block or replacement with a new bigger, stronger block. Money was around the same, so I went with the latter.

The car has been mapped at 333bhp on Canems, not fully run in. I'm now having the gearbox replaced with a new T5 WC box, with all the incidentals, and the wishbones modified to try and do something about the bump steer.

When I'm finished I believe that this will be a very fast, reliable and manageable car, which I intend to keep for a very long time.

However, I'm conscious that the car will be far from an original 450SE.

In my defence, the old block sits on a pallet in my garage (and could be rebuilt and reunited with the head should circumstances dictate), but I could have done all this work to a 400SE and felt less guilty about it!

Matt
& here's that very car.......




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDvte-aGX4U

You'r doing all the work I dreamed about doing. Especially the suspenders. thumbup