Identify Wedge 2.8i Air Box?

Identify Wedge 2.8i Air Box?

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John042

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183 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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Can anyone identify from the pics the air box I have in my 2.8i please? I thought it was perhaps Granada but a filter from that certainly doesn't fit. It sits very close to the power steering pulley/engine so can't be that efficient breathing warm air. Again I'm wondering is it a item that "Wesley" collected over the years? Any thoughts please, thankyou. J C.





mrzigazaga

18,621 posts

179 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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Hi John....The PAS pump on D was on the O/S...I think your air box was originally..(Possibly) the same at one point....I have a good Ford Capri PAS pump that actually fits that side...And the bracket if needed...In fact will be needed.
The only other way would be to do what i did...

And then run a cold air feed from a K&N in the nosecone.



You can just see it in this pic...



John042

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183 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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Thanks Zig. Fitting the psp on the other side might throw up more problems, remember the saga of the alternator now mounted on the offside? Wouldn't cutting a hole that near to the metering plate cause prblems? The only way to go I guess, a Capri air box certainly doesn't fit. Cheers J C.

RCK974X

2,521 posts

163 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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Original fitment into wedge is a Granada 2.8i airbox. (Mk 2, the squarish Cortina look alike one) Your photo has the top of the cover missing, and replaced with the foam and wire mesh.

The original airbox fouls the power steering pump in the wedge , which is why TVR put the pump on the other side (original alternator side) and moved the alternator up.

Zig's pics of his mods, show a Ford Capri 2.8i airbox, or the top of it at least, Ford had the same problem (pump fouls) in the smaller Capri engine bay.

Here is a pic of my original airbox with my home made deflector at front to stop hot air coming in from radiator. My wedge does not have P steering.

Zig posted pics showing PS pump on other side in an older thread somewhere....

Edited by RCK974X on Tuesday 16th February 20:45

mrzigazaga

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179 months

Tuesday 16th February 2016
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RCK974X said:
Zig posted pics showing PS pump on other side in an older thread somewhere....
Yes its in the last pic i posted...You can see it...Its painted red and is a lot slimmer than the other type...



Originally i had a different PAS pump and it was fitted to part of the alternator bracket.

John042

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Tuesday 16th February 2016
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Thanks Andy/Zig. I guess the only way forward will be the modifiction Zig made. Thanks. J C

RCK974X

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163 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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John,

Just so there's no confusion, Zig's 2nd pic is the TVR mod, so that is standard layout for all 2.8 Power steering setups. (given that 'standard' and TVR don't really go together). It's not a 'Zig Special'.

I think Zig said somewhere the pump on his was an Austin Montego (?) or something.

I've moved alternators around before - it's just about making sure the pulleys line up, and you've got some adjustment etc.

Hole near metering unit will be OK, remember it's a long way from engine, so flow will be fairly smooth by then.

The trick really is making/getting a smaller box to fit the fuel distributor assembly.
May find a Capri one, or you could get a shop to make a box (or DIY if you're that way inclined) and then fit a cone style air filter....

Fuel dist is flat and has an ordinary paper gasket where it bolts to the box, so not too bad to make one out of a folded ally sheet. I was going to do that myself, but found a real cheap K+N filter for original box, so I kept it.

Edited by RCK974X on Wednesday 17th February 00:54

John042

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183 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Thanks Andy.I tried a Capri air box from Tickover but no way it was going to fit without major alteration. So the way forward is to molest my set up by blanking the large square exsisting intake and cutting a hole in the front of the box beneath the air distributor plate. Then a ducting forward. Because of the block mountings and strange power steering input shaft my alternator sits quite high up on the offside. At least the pulleys line up and there's adjustment. Another day in the life of TVR modifications? laugh Cheers J C.

mrzigazaga

18,621 posts

179 months

Wednesday 17th February 2016
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When attempting to supercharge Delilah the alternator was moved from the O/S to the N/S...We had to form a bracket but the holes on the block were already there...Just like the two positions for the power steering...Which incidentally was used for the new alternator...However i went the EPS route as there was no room for a pump and the alternator as the charger was a big ole lump...

Here is a pic of the capri pump..Pre- Charged

I only did this initially down to the lack of space on number one plug...I always managed to loose skin when taking the plug out which was more than normal in the early days!


Post Charged.


Alternator re-positioning.

John042

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Wednesday 17th February 2016
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Thanks Zig, what nice engine bay.cool I to have a problem accessing No 1 plug due to the adjacent modified alternator bracket. Easier swinging the alternator out of the way. I will resolve the air intake configuration in slow time, in fact maybe a next winter project if "Wesley" is on the road this summer??clapclap Thanks again for the detailed pics' Cheers John C.

GinG15

501 posts

185 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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original TVR setup...




Edited by GinG15 on Saturday 20th February 22:36

mrzigazaga

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179 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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GinG15 said:
original TVR setup...click the pic to make it big beer


Defo...This was mine pre-upgrade.


It was the first thing i changed...Oh and removed the "Fuel cooler" in the nose cone....

John042

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Friday 19th February 2016
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Yes Zig, lots of room if you haven't got the Power steering pump there. No problem a hole in the front of the existing air box is the way forward with ducting down to the nose. Cheers J C.

mrzigazaga

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179 months

Friday 19th February 2016
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John042 said:
Yes Zig, lots of room if you haven't got the Power steering pump there. No problem a hole in the front of the existing air box is the way forward with ducting down to the nose. Cheers J C.
Hi John..Just make sure its equal to 3" as that was the minimum for the metering unit....Not sure if your metering unit has the same mount...I think we nicked my one from a Sierra 2.8i...Ill see if i can find the original post...Cheers...Ziga

John042

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Saturday 20th February 2016
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As you can see Zig from the pic' " I haven't got 3" as the Bishop said to the actress!eek In fact about 2.5" so a little restrictive for the fuel distributor. I did try an airbox from a Capri 2.8i but that was even narrower. JC


mrzigazaga

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179 months

Saturday 20th February 2016
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"Blimey that is tight" said the bishop to the actress....Is there no room on any part of the mesh piece between it and the engine...PASP...etc..Might be able to make a lid with a collar on?...

John042

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Saturday 20th February 2016
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No chance Zig, about 1.5" between the edge of the box and the power steering pump. I need a box with a "bigger bottom" as the vicar said!:rolleyes. J C.

shaundeb

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55 months

Wednesday 25th November 2020
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Hi John I have bought a 280i this year and the set up is identical to the one in your picture did you resolve the air filter issue or have I got your old car its white reg number A108