Oil pressure
Oil pressure
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matt-man

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2,667 posts

240 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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Hey guys,

Noticed that on start up the oil pressure light takes a while (probably up to 8 seconds) before it goes off. The gauge has always read low (almost none) whole time I have had it. I changed the sender a couple of years back and it actually made it worse!

How long do your lights take to go out?

I think the pump is starting to weap oil so a change is on the cards. Anyone else have this? How easy is this to do?

Cheers! Matt

jon haines

960 posts

267 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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Normally about 4 secs but did have an issue a while ago after an oil and filter change when it was about 10 secs but it turned out to be a faulty filter. Have you changed your recently? If not it might be worth changing it.

matt-man

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2,667 posts

240 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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Interesting.....It has been worse since the last oil change. It's actually due a service and I'm picking up the parts tomorrow to do it. Will see if it makes a difference smile

KKson

3,466 posts

146 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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4 or 5 seconds for light to go off and gauge head up. I had issues the other year and fitted a new gUge sender. Turned out to wrong one. As a check I bought an oil pressure test kit with various adapters which proved that all was well and it was indeed the sender unit that was faulty. Other issue could be blocked or gunged up oil ways that might need a clean up?

KKson

3,466 posts

146 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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matt-man said:
Interesting.....It has been worse since the last oil change. It's actually due a service and I'm picking up the parts tomorrow to do it. Will see if it makes a difference smile
Ah, did you new filter have a non return valve in it? If ot then it will take time to fill filer first before getting any pressure.

matt-man

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240 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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Well the engine was out with the chassis work a couple of years back and I cleaned it all through so I don't think so.

I have been using a Mann filter, think the part is w940/1

mrzigazaga

18,740 posts

186 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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Hi Matt

Mine takes about the same as Jon & Keith's..When it starts....What oil are you using?

matt-man

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Tuesday 27th December 2016
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mrzigazaga said:
Hi Matt

Mine takes about the same as Jon & Keith's..When it starts....What oil are you using?
Hey zig

I'm using 20w 50 vr1 although I've just ordered some Gulf classic 20w50 mineral oil as there is a 50% off oil deal at Euro car parts and they don't sell vr1 any more (code is oil50 if anyone needs it). Think the deal stops on the 30th

colin mee

1,207 posts

141 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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I ended up fitting a new gauge with the pipe .very reliable

mrzigazaga

18,740 posts

186 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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matt-man said:
Hey zig

I'm using 20w 50 vr1 although I've just ordered some Gulf classic 20w50 mineral oil as there is a 50% off oil deal at Euro car parts and they don't sell vr1 any more (code is oil50 if anyone needs it). Think the deal stops on the 30th
Could be a number of other reasons then...Weakening oil pump..Sticking relief valve..Sludge...When its due an oil change try some flushing oil...

Wedg1e

27,002 posts

286 months

Tuesday 27th December 2016
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matt-man said:
Gulf classic 20w50 mineral oil as there is a 50% off oil deal at Euro car parts
Jesus, 23 quid for 5 litres of good old Glug? ON OFFER?! My local factors do something similar ('classic' rolleyes) for £12 every day of the week. It's pushing 16 years since I rebuilt my engine from the crank up and I've never wasted money on expensive oil, it's a bloody Rover V8 FFS.

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

234 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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What's your millage,
Might be worth getting the oil pump resurfaced and new gears, I think RPI do a exchange or could be just buy, but its at least £200 for the pump and gears.

adam quantrill

11,625 posts

263 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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Wedg1e said:
('classic' rolleyes) for £12 every day of the week. It's pushing 16 years since I rebuilt my engine from the crank up and I've never wasted money on expensive oil, it's a bloody Rover V8 FFS.
Quite, mine is the Comma Classic now at around £14 a gallon. Change it every 3k miles you can't go wrong - my cam is still going strong at 80k now.

Mine is around 4-6 seconds on startup but I use it every day, if you leave it a week that might be the reason. Try it the next day after starting it and time it then.

As Leigh says you can have the pump cover sorted out, but £200 is far too much, a local engineering company can skim the cover usually for around £20. Or you could use grinding paste on a sheet of flat glass to get a flat surface (rinse it well off after mind!)

Number 7

4,111 posts

283 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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Leigh / Adam, It's my understanding that the pump covers can of course be ground flat. However, the covers originally had an anodised surface, I imagine to reduce the wear on a bare aluminium surface. Any idea how long such a bare surface would last in service?

adam quantrill

11,625 posts

263 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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I had one machined back in the 90's and probably put at least 20k miles on it. I'm not use what function the anodisation performs, i would have thought small grindings of aluminium oxide would be the last thing you want mixing into the oil anyway.

matt-man

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240 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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Wedg1e said:
Jesus, 23 quid for 5 litres of good old Glug? ON OFFER?! My local factors do something similar ('classic' rolleyes) for £12 every day of the week. It's pushing 16 years since I rebuilt my engine from the crank up and I've never wasted money on expensive oil, it's a bloody Rover V8 FFS.
Deal is 50 percent off so 34/2 = 17 quid for 5 litres. The classic part just means that it has added zinc.

smile

matt-man

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Wednesday 28th December 2016
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TVRleigh_BBWR said:
What's your millage,
Might be worth getting the oil pump resurfaced and new gears, I think RPI do a exchange or could be just buy, but its at least £200 for the pump and gears.
On about 92k, although don't know the engine history before my time. I've done almost 40k on it myself in 11 years.

When I started it yesterday it had been almost a month so worst case scenario.

Re getting the pump skimmed, I can't find anyone to do anything for 20 quid?! The joys of Surrey...

Anyone got a link or any info before I go pulling things apart and things to visibly check?

Cheers!

Wedg1e

27,002 posts

286 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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matt-man said:
Deal is 50 percent off so 34/2 = 17 quid for 5 litres. The classic part just means that it has added zinc.

smile
Aye, it was up at £34 and when I put the discount code in it came up at £23 confused

adam quantrill

11,625 posts

263 months

Wednesday 28th December 2016
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I think you need a 12-point socket to remove the fixings on the pump cover. As with all of this stuff go around each one first, crack it 30 degrees then do it up again until sure all of them will move. Or else the engine will have to come out!

Probably a 6mm socket but that's from memory.

Have a look at the cover on the inside - if it's not scored then just put it back on.

In reality any leak here will have little effect anyway when the oil is cold, it makes a more noticeable effect with hot oil on tickover. If the hot tickover is healthy (i.e. the oil light doesn't flicker) then you're good.

matt-man

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Wednesday 28th December 2016
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Wedg1e said:
Aye, it was up at £34 and when I put the discount code in it came up at £23 confused
If you used the xmas code then that gives a random discount! Oil50 is the one smile

My local factors all charge a fortune for everything. Shame, I try to support them but it's getting harder to do especially when they don't seem that fussed about my custom!