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d p - 400se

Original Poster:

338 posts

273 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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I need to get some tyres for my 16" x 9"s and was looking for some advise on which tyre is a good compromise on price/grip/longevity?

Also any recomendations on the best / cheapest place to buy would be appreciated.

I will be needing 2x 245/45/16's and 2x 225/45/16's

Thanks in advance

stainless_steve

6,041 posts

281 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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I have SO3s,lucky to get 4,000 miles out of the rears.They tramline at slow speeds but are great going at speed{this may have to do with how the car is set up}Great at warp speed in the wet too.Alot of people like Toyos,i've not tried them so can't comment.

>> Edited by stainless_steve on Wednesday 23 March 20:58

19560

14,102 posts

281 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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For the rear Goodyear GSD2s, if you can find them Bridgestone SO3PPs, or Toyo T1-R. Yokohama Advan Neova for the front http://340r.net/news/neova.htm

NHyde

1,427 posts

271 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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Steve ,

Interested to hear you like the SO3's , I detest the things and can't wait to get them off.

Was thinking of Goodyears next .

stainless_steve

6,041 posts

281 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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NHyde said:
Steve ,

Interested to hear you like the SO3's , I detest the things and can't wait to get them off.

Was thinking of Goodyears next .


My car is only a toy Neil,i can put up with the tyres a slow speeds,when i'm out hooning up Noth Yorks they stick like glue,don't forget mine runs on 16" rims too.{maybe it makes a difference}I've had Yokohamas,ones they use on the porche turbo they did't tramline quite as bad but they were not as good on the limits.Good reports on Toyos though

I don't think you can get the so3pp any more

19560

14,102 posts

281 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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NHyde said:
Was thinking of Goodyears next.

IMHO it's a difficult choice at the moment. SO3PPs and Goodyear F1 GSD3s both have their champions but in these sizes Goodyear only make the D2 and the SO3PP has ceased production, hence my earlier post.

19560

14,102 posts

281 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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stainless_steve said:
I don't think you can get the so3pp any more

D***, that's twice you've beaten me to it, and that's without the 660.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

307 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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I liked the SO3's as well but 3,000 miles a set of rears, so changed to Toyo and now get around 6-8000 out of them. SO3 I found to be the best for grip wet and dry. Toyo, not quite but more milage out of them.

stainless_steve

6,041 posts

281 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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19560 said:

stainless_steve said:
I don't think you can get the so3pp any more


D***, that's twice you've beaten me to it, and that's without the 660.


Hows your car going Jonathan,no not that one the Wedge

NHyde

1,427 posts

271 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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I WANT ME SO2PP's BACK

Rattle

Cot



stainless_steve

6,041 posts

281 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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NHyde said:


I WANT ME SO2PP's BACK

Rattle

Cot





They were a softer compound i think,maybe the Toyos will work good for you Neil

redwedge5

583 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2005
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d p - 400se said:
I need to get some tyres for my 16" x 9"s and was looking for some advise on which tyre is a good compromise on price/grip/longevity?




I've recently been looking into this as well. Falken FK451s seem to have a reasonable reputation and 245/45/16 Y rating are obtainable for well under a £100 each. No personal experience - yet. Anyone else using these?

FrenchTVR

1,844 posts

290 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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I've got the Bridgestone SO3's, found them to be very good. Haven't had them long enough to wear a set out yet though!
Admittedly I am running 17's.

d p - 400se

Original Poster:

338 posts

273 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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After making a few calls this morning it seems the choice is rather limited. SO3's are discontinuted (apparently) so the two best remaining choices are Falken GRB FK451's or Toyo T1R's. I'm being quoted 82 for the Falkens and 114 for the Toyo's. Anyone running either of these tyres at the moment?

paul gotts

4,111 posts

285 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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Lots of positive comments on the Toyo Proxes on old threads on the Griff. forum, although they may need adjustment to pressures compared to the Bridgestones. I'm also looking for some new boots for my 400, and was tempted by the T1S. However, talking to Toyo this morning, they tell me that the T1S has been superceded by the T1R, and there are no plans to make this new tyre in the size I need, although they do have stocks of the old model. I would go back to Yoko., but again, they don't make the AVS in the right size. Not too bothered about wear rates, grip is what I want. I seems inevitable that choices of decent rubber will continue to decline in 15" rim sizes.

As an aside, it seems that the "recommended" rim width for tyres of 225 x 50 x 15 is between 6" and 8", which is fine for most applications, except that I run 8.5" rims on the rear, although I've never encountered any problems to do with tyre size.

Unless of course, someone knows of a stash of S02's that they're willing to share.....

Paul.

19560

14,102 posts

281 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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d p - 400se said:
The two best remaining choices are Falken GRB FK451's or Toyo T1R's.

For the rear in your sizes,yes but the best for the front is surely the Neova?

19560

14,102 posts

281 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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paul gotts said:
Unless of course, someone knows of a stash of S02's that they're willing to share...

Someone will probably offer those to you soon but beware it's the SO2PPs that you want/mean?

kevinday

13,664 posts

303 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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19560 said:

d p - 400se said:
The two best remaining choices are Falken GRB FK451's or Toyo T1R's.


For the rear in your sizes,yes but the best for the front is surely the Neova?


I personally would never mix tyre types on a car, it can result in 'interesting' handling.

19560

14,102 posts

281 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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stainless_steve said:
Hows your car going Jonathan,no not that one the Wedge

I don't know what you mean. I went for a good blow the cobwebs away blast round the Cat and Fiddle yesterday, brake fluid may need to be changed now. lol

19560

14,102 posts

281 months

Thursday 24th March 2005
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kevinday said:
I personally would never mix tyre types on a car, it can result in 'interesting' handling.

Yes, in an ideal world but given that the rubber of choice is not available for both front and rear would you rather fit different first class choices (D3s, T1-Rs, Neovas) or fit the same second class all round (Falken, Fulda, etc.) I'd rather go for the former because although not perfectly balanced the limits will be higher.