Slightly loose steering

[Byker28i]

tracking down a slight movement/slop in my steering. It's not the rack or UJ's but seems to be in the upper shaft, where the adjustable par of the shaft meets the lower part. There's a plastic triangular plastic part that seems to be worn.

Item no 2 in the parts manual shows it. The steering wheel attaches to the top. When you take out the wheel assembly it just slides off this part.


Are these available, replaceable, or is it a case of shimming it to take up the slack?

The whole shaft is call the inner shaft assembly part number H0348

Edited by Byker28i on Monday 8th July 19:29

[Mr Cerbera]

Sorry to hi-jack the thread
but
I have been trying to get some blummin' supplier to send me the correct UJs and
NO 'EFFIN BODY WILL SEND 'EM

Anyone got any ideas ?
(Pretty please)

[Byker28i]

Which ones do you need? Top or bottom?

Incidently I took the steering apart again last night and discovered the plastic sleeve is work and cracked all down one side. Superglue to repair and the gap was about 25thou using feeler gauges giving the slackness. That has been taken up using adhesive silver foil tape. Seems to work ok, no idea how well that will wear.

[Byker28i]

Hum I'm wondering if the shaft is from a Ford Sierra, seems to match the triangular look.

Interestingly it's a known issue on the ford forums and there's a bearing kit to replace it.
http://clbraking.co.uk

I can't see a way to mount that though

[Byker28i]

Mr Cerbera said:

Sorry to hi-jack the thread
but
I have been trying to get some blummin' supplier to send me the correct UJs and
NO 'EFFIN BODY WILL SEND 'EM

Anyone got any ideas ?
(Pretty please)

Any good? Got some nice chromed ones also
https://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/steering-co...

9/16 & 3/4
https://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/forged-univ...

According to TVRParts: Cerbera uses this joint in both upper and lower positions. £39
https://tvr-parts.com/tvr-parts/part-details/tvr-h...

Or if they are ford, then
https://www.burtonpower.com/parts-by-category/stee...

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 11th July 07:57

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 11th July 08:06

[TwinKam]

Byker28i said:

Hum I'm wondering if the shaft is from a Ford Sierra, seems to match the triangular look.

Interestingly it's a known issue on the ford forums and there's a bearing kit to replace it.
http://clbraking.co.uk

I can't see a way to mount that though

That link doesn't take me to any product, but the well known Sierra issue was the lower column bearing (in the bulkhead). It was indeed triangular as the lower column was itself triangular, and it (the 'bearing') was nothing more than two pieces of rotating plastic surrounded by a rubber grommet...
I dont know what our columns came from but many manufacturers used a sliding triangular joint with a plastic liner to provide the required collapsablity without metal-to-metal rattle. The liner was not a serviceable part in most cases ie it was only available as part of a complete column assembly. In some cases the plastic would be irreparably damaged by sliding the column too far apart (eg breaking one-way tangs)... I see that this method has recently been suggested as a quick way to gain access to items behind the steering wheel, I've not tried this on mine so I can't comment further, but generally they are not intended to be slid apart.
It would be good to positively ID the source of the column...

[phazed]

The Griff and Chim columns of the same era are a Cavalier item.

[Byker28i]

TwinKam said:

That link doesn't take me to any product, but the well known Sierra issue was the lower column bearing (in the bulkhead). It was indeed triangular as the lower column was itself triangular, and it (the 'bearing') was nothing more than two pieces of rotating plastic surrounded by a rubber grommet...
I dont know what our columns came from but many manufacturers used a sliding triangular joint with a plastic liner to provide the required collapsablity without metal-to-metal rattle. The liner was not a serviceable part in most cases ie it was only available as part of a complete column assembly. In some cases the plastic would be irreparably damaged by sliding the column too far apart (eg breaking one-way tangs)... I see that this method has recently been suggested as a quick way to gain access to items behind the steering wheel, I've not tried this on mine so I can't comment further, but generally they are not intended to be slid apart.
It would be good to positively ID the source of the column...

Yeah that bush and bearing looks like it's designed to go onto the floor, where the rod goes through.

I think the column is sierra mk2, I'll let you know, I used my old ford contacts to get a new, old stock part. I'll compare it when it comes.

[Jimm218]

I'll be interested to see what you find with this. I noticed that the plastic triangle on my column was split a few years ago. My car has now developed a looseness in the steering and we couldn't find much play in any of the bushings during the MOT so I'm starting to wonder if this might be the issue.

[Mr Cerbera]

Byker28i said:

Mr Cerbera said:

Sorry to hi-jack the thread
but
I have been trying to get some blummin' supplier to send me the correct UJs and
NO 'EFFIN BODY WILL SEND 'EM

Anyone got any ideas ?
(Pretty please)

Any good? Got some nice chromed ones also
https://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/steering-co...

9/16 & 3/4
https://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/forged-univ...

According to TVRParts: Cerbera uses this joint in both upper and lower positions. £39
https://tvr-parts.com/tvr-parts/part-details/tvr-h...

Or if they are ford, then
https://www.burtonpower.com/parts-by-category/stee...

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 11th July 07:57

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 11th July 08:06

Cheers Dave

Have attempted an order through Car Builder Solutions.
Here's hoping
___________________________________________________

... and it turned up Yesterday

Thanks very much for your suggestions

Edited by Mr Cerbera on Tuesday 23 July 19:41

[Byker28i]

I picked up my new shaft yesterday, brand new, in ford packaging, unopened. Mk2 sierra. Completely different shaft but looks like the right plastic bush however - it's got the same crack along it.

Manufacturing issue? Age issue?

It's nice and tight in the shaft it came with so I'll measure carefully and see if it's better than the one I have, then try it in mine and see if it can be removed easily and fitted...

[Mr Cerbera]

Byker28i said:

I picked up my new shaft yesterday, brand new, in ford packaging, unopened. Mk2 sierra. Completely different shaft but looks like the right plastic bush however - it's got the same crack along it.

Manufacturing issue? Age issue?

It's nice and tight in the shaft it came with so I'll measure carefully and see if it's better than the one I have, then try it in mine and see if it can be removed easily and fitted...

Did you get the script writers of the Carry On films to write that post ?

[Byker28i]

Mr Cerbera said:

Byker28i said:

I picked up my new shaft yesterday, brand new, in ford packaging, unopened. Mk2 sierra. Completely different shaft but looks like the right plastic bush however - it's got the same crack along it.

Manufacturing issue? Age issue?

It's nice and tight in the shaft it came with so I'll measure carefully and see if it's better than the one I have, then try it in mine and see if it can be removed easily and fitted...

Did you get the script writers of the Carry On films to write that post ?

LOL.

Just to confirm, it's not the right part, It's a smaller shaft (ooer Matron) so it's thinner, but it does with a bit of persuasion and a rubber mallet just knock off the shaft.