tips on starting newly built engine
tips on starting newly built engine
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uglymug

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575 posts

264 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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Hi guys, long time no speak!. I have been busy over the last few months getting the engine done. Had all of the engine machined by DJE in Nuneaton. Have just put the engine back together and last weekend into the car. The tubular headers I got are causing some headaches tho. Lots of modification's to fit, although they were off another wedge - strange!. Need to get some Valvoline Racing Oil from somewhere who stocks in South Wales.
Anyway, its along time since I rebuilt an engine, last one was my RS2000 back in the 80's so have gone a bit rusty. Please can you tell me the correct way, what to do and what to look out for.
Ta very much like!!!!!!

v8 racing

2,064 posts

280 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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Surely you are better off talking to dave ellis if he has supplied a lot of the bits?

number 7

4,113 posts

291 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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I think that a search will find V8Racings (Rob) recommendation within the last couple of months - can't remember which forum though. IIRC its something like run the engine on a light load c. 2-3K revs for 20 mins (sounds like a recipe book) which allows the tappets to rotate properly, and, I believe, the rings to bed in. Use non-synth. oil, ideally warmed up first, but do not let the engine idle.

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dickymint

29,067 posts

287 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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Was wondering what you've been up to Ug. Good to see you're still at it!


From memory you need to open door (right hand side as you look out of the window). put key in ignition and turn (clockwise) wait for massive noise to wake that neighbour of yours from her slumber and hope her Horlicks has'nt gone too cold. Then if the gauge 3rd from the left moves anywhere near halfway move the stick near your left leg across and up just after pressing the pedal nearest the kirb with your foot (left foot is best). release said foot sharply whilst stamping right foot onto the pedal furthest to the right. Hang on for grim death and shout at the top of your voice WAAHHOOOOOOOOOO

pwd95

8,455 posts

267 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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Mark, how's it going? Funny thing I was wondering how you were getting on recently too. Good to hear you're making progress.
Wyn

gsx600

2,740 posts

277 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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Sounds like theres going to be a lot of freshly run in high power engines at BBWF, all heading for the drag strip on Sunday ?

Might bring my engine hoist as I'm staying Reckon I can get 3 or 4 in the back of the WSV Ebay here I come

Wedgetarian

1,233 posts

296 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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When I did mine a few years ago I installed the engine completely then took out the plugs, disconnect the injectors then spin the engine over on the starter.

Make sure that you have oil pressure before proceeding. Probably waste a whole batteryfull just turning it over and making it spins at a reasonable speed.

Check the ignition timing while you are doing this.

Recharge the battery, plugs in, reconnect the injectors and Robert should be your Mother's sibling!

Russ

njhucker

377 posts

289 months

Wednesday 29th March 2006
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Most important thing you need to do is prime the oil pump.Best way is with a tool that you attach to a drill and push on to top of oil pump drive. ( I have one if you want to borrow it, and will be @ the tvrcc meet tomorrow).
I tried everywhere in south wales for valvoline racing oil, without success.Managed to get a some at the Clasic Car show. If you find somewhere local, let us know.

brummiewedge

5,284 posts

250 months

Thursday 30th March 2006
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I think a 13mm socket can be used to prime the pump, just tape it on the end of the extension so it dont drop off!!! Blow the the oil light out with this, start and then give it loads, mines going strong and thats how i treated mine.

wedg1e

27,035 posts

294 months

Thursday 30th March 2006
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Hi Mark, good to hear you're keeping the faith! Fire it up with no pipes, see if you can bump off the old biddy next door and I'll buy her house...

racingsnake

1,071 posts

254 months

Thursday 30th March 2006
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I would use a sacrificial mineral oil for a few miles on a rebuilt motor otherwise things won't bed in properly - why not ask the Opieoilman for his recomendations?
Not trying to teach you to suck eggs etc... if i am off kilter here sorry mate.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

313 months

Thursday 30th March 2006
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I hope to get a service at DJE next week. If its agreeable and you haven't found any oil I could pick some up for you? Depends if they can fit me in and getting it to you.

racingsnake

1,071 posts

254 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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If struggling for good oil Halfords now do Mobil 1 in the Motorsport Formula 15/50 which works well in an RV8.

mikeb

2,869 posts

311 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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Ugly, at the bottom of Nantgarw hill in Caerphilly just off the A470 (Nantgarw) there is a motor factors just by the roundabout for the showcasecinemas and Makro - they always have Valvoline in stock.

MikeyB

uglymug

Original Poster:

575 posts

264 months

Friday 31st March 2006
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Mike-Bugger I passed that place yesterday. LDS spares springs to mind. Will ring them Sat morn to find out if they stock racing oil.
So lets get this running in thing sorted then, as follows
1.Prime oil pump ( wait for oil! )
2.Spark plugs out ( get new plugs -fit-then take back out! )
3.Unplug injectors
4.Use a sacfricial oil - non synth - 15w/50
5.Warm by using oxy/acet torch under sump
6.Run engine at 2000rpm for 20 mins ( Delia says )
7.Take off exhaust to tremorise old tart next door
8.Put it all back together and blast up to Hereford !!!

jmorgan

36,010 posts

313 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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mikeb said:
Ugly, at the bottom of Nantgarw hill in Caerphilly just off the A470 (Nantgarw) there is a motor factors just by the roundabout for the showcasecinemas and Makro - they always have Valvoline in stock.

MikeyB


A few cans less today but they certainly have some more in stock. Cheers mike.

uglymug

Original Poster:

575 posts

264 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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Jeff - is that the Valvoline Racing oil 15/30 that Dave recommended I use in the new engine ?

jmorgan

36,010 posts

313 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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uglymug said:
Jeff - is that the Valvoline Racing oil 15/30 that Dave recommended I use in the new engine ?

20W50....... mmmmm have to check me receipts. But I would go with what Dave said or give him a bell to check. I haven't been able to get up there this week so thought I would do and oil change meself, which hole does it go in again


Edited to add, checked receipts, 20W50 used in the servicing at DJE.

>> Edited by jmorgan on Wednesday 5th April 21:08

dickymint

29,067 posts

287 months

Wednesday 5th April 2006
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uglymug said:
Jeff - is that the Valvoline Racing oil 15/30 that Dave recommended I use in the new engine ?


Mark, stop faffing around, get something wet in the engine and fire it up

number 7

4,113 posts

291 months

Thursday 6th April 2006
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uglymug said:
So lets get this running in thing sorted then, as follows
1.Prime oil pump ( wait for oil! )
2.Spark plugs out ( get new plugs -fit-then take back out! )
3.Unplug injectors
You could always just take out the pump relay.
uglymug said:

4.Use a sacfricial oil - non synth - 15w/50
5.Warm by using oxy/acet torch under sump
or a hot air paint stripper might be slightly safer
uglymug said:

6.Run engine at 2000rpm for 20 mins ( Delia says )
Must be under load.

uglymug said:
7.Take off exhaust to tremorise old tart next door
8.Put it all back together and blast up to Hereford !!!


Good luck.
7.