520SX progress report
520SX progress report
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shpub

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301 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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Well the engine had its first dyno run at John Eales with the blower and it looks very promising indeed. 500+lb/ft torque with 400lb/ft at around 2700. Engine runs really sweetly - idles at around 650 rpm - and is over 450 bhp. Currently fine tuning inlet paths and air flow to help the top end and then the water injection will be set up and a few more horses released. The Chargecooler is very good but it needs bigger inlets to help the air flow.

BTW water injection does need a high pressure pump (100psi) and an atomising jet. I'm using an Aquamist MF2 to map the WI in a similar way to that the ECU maps the fuelling. The idea is to use it like an insurance policy rather than rely on it. It won't be replacing the chargecooler.




silverback mike

11,293 posts

282 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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Dear god

l33

3,469 posts

253 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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And that lump will fit in a wedge?

rev-erend

21,619 posts

313 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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Steve - thanks for the progress report.. always great to hear about the wildest wedge out there..

Will it fit a wedge - not with those headers

shpub

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Friday 11th August 2006
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l33 said:


And that lump will fit in a wedge?

Yes. It is a tight fit and I use the original headers. All the layout etc was done with the engine in place so I knew it would fit. All the ancillaries have been moved about. All the pipework and additional tanks pumps for the WI and Chargecooler have been fitted. Charge cooler rad is located in the nose. Getting very good at metal bashing these days... The space where the headlamp pods were came in pretty useful as well

And yes I have it insured so I can drive it on the road....

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

271 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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Eeeeenteresting... so - that's the charge cooler we can see at the front with a couple of pipes dangling down? Is the water flow through the remote rad pumped? I spose you'll have to wait until its installed before getting some steady-state readings, but I'd be interested to know what the water temperature is like entering/leaving the cooler.

Also whereabouts in the induction track is the water injection going to be installed?

- Adam

l33

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253 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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I have a feeling this may win the "How LOUD is your Wedge" competition at BBWF 2007...

rev-erend

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Friday 11th August 2006
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No - it's a track car : so unlikely..

shpub

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Friday 11th August 2006
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Yes that is the charge cooler. It has a seperate cooling system (rad, electric pump etc. It was keeeping the charge temps below 60 deg and you could feel the difference on the pipes before and after. And that was on both the air and water.

Without it, John has seen temps reach three figures with far less boost and has come to the conclusion that it is essential for these type of configurations but you have a different type of supercharger and are not running at the air flow/compression levels that this setup does.

The water injection goes in the pipe before the air box after the charge cooler.

leorest

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268 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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Please please promise me it will be at BBWF07 come hell or high water?

FrenchTVR

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296 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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rev-erend said:
No - it's a track car : so unlikely..


Errr Rev..

shpub said:

And yes I have it insured so I can drive it on the road....





Edited by FrenchTVR on Friday 11th August 13:16

rev-erend

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Friday 11th August 2006
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FrenchTVR said:
rev-erend said:
No - it's a track car : so unlikely..


Errr Rev..

shpub said:

And yes I have it insured so I can drive it on the road....





Edited by FrenchTVR on Friday 11th August 13:16


Come on French- you know he drives it to the track..

Amesome that's it road legal though

shpub

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Friday 11th August 2006
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leorest said:
Please please promise me it will be at BBWF07 come hell or high water?


Hopefully. I think I will get beaten up if I don't. I am looking forward to poodling around in it. Going shopping and so on.

TVR 3X

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296 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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Am I right in thinking that the charge cooler is a heat exchanger between the compressed inlet air and a seperate radiator system with circulating water? The charge cooler doesn't need to have airflow over it at all.

If you think that the inlet/outlet on the charge cooler are too small have you considered using two in parallel. You can probably use the existing rad at the front because the amount of heat you want to shift is the same but with two in parallel your airflow should be that much less restricted.

But where are you going to put the other one?

islander

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275 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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Are you racing it yet? If I am not mistaken the Goodwood sprint is on next weekend and was wondering if you were going?

350matt

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308 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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Blimey!

Any rover bits left underneath all that lot?

Nice one Steve

Matt

shpub

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Friday 11th August 2006
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islander said:
Are you racing it yet? If I am not mistaken the Goodwood sprint is on next weekend and was wondering if you were going?

I'll be there but in the Griff shopping trolley.

shpub

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TVR 3X said:
Am I right in thinking that the charge cooler is a heat exchanger between the compressed inlet air and a seperate radiator system with circulating water? The charge cooler doesn't need to have airflow over it at all.

If you think that the inlet/outlet on the charge cooler are too small have you considered using two in parallel. You can probably use the existing rad at the front because the amount of heat you want to shift is the same but with two in parallel your airflow should be that much less restricted.

But where are you going to put the other one?


Yes. More efficient at getting rid of the heat. The core size is fine it is more of getting a good unrestrictive flow. To give you some idea of the amount of air and pressure, the blower is providing about 1000 cubic feet per minute. One rubber hose with spiral rubber we used as an experiment actually burst.

Anyway no space for another as you say.

GreenV8S

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313 months

Friday 11th August 2006
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How much back pressure are you getting Steve?

shpub

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Friday 11th August 2006
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Don't know exactly - but enough to know it can be improved on. Main issue is the pipe diameter reduction. That's going to get replaced with 76 mm piping all the way through.

Edited by shpub on Friday 11th August 21:29