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My exceedingly long-term project of building the ultimate house/workshop for my Wedge has thrown up a new problem.
After having deliberated nay agonised over whether to go for a pit, ramp, lift, jacks etc. etc. etc. I settled on planing to use one of these for getting the Wedge up in the air.###
www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp%">VLA1800
As this has now gone obsolete I'm now looking at a combination of one of these CTJ100 (modifying the saddle to mate with suitable lifting points around the differential)And this HLPT685 with blocks mounted on the front end to mate to the front cross-member.
Once up in the air it will obviously go onto some stands prior to any work.
Do you think this will work?
### NOTE I can't get the link to work for the VLA1800 It's an obsolete Clarke mobile vehicle lift and I was linking to a google cashed page. If you want to see it you'll have to click on "quote" then cut'n'paste the link into a browser.
After having deliberated nay agonised over whether to go for a pit, ramp, lift, jacks etc. etc. etc. I settled on planing to use one of these for getting the Wedge up in the air.###
www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp%">VLA1800
As this has now gone obsolete I'm now looking at a combination of one of these CTJ100 (modifying the saddle to mate with suitable lifting points around the differential)And this HLPT685 with blocks mounted on the front end to mate to the front cross-member.
Once up in the air it will obviously go onto some stands prior to any work.
Do you think this will work?
### NOTE I can't get the link to work for the VLA1800 It's an obsolete Clarke mobile vehicle lift and I was linking to a google cashed page. If you want to see it you'll have to click on "quote" then cut'n'paste the link into a browser.
Edited by leorest on Tuesday 5th September 15:28
That kind of lift is available from other manufacturers / ebay
www.vehicle-lifts.co.uk/carlifts.html
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/car-lift-drive-
www.vehicle-lifts.co.uk/carlifts.html
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/car-lift-drive-
I have bought several of these for my workshop at work, they are the bees knees for many reasons. 1 when they are down they are very low ie. you can drive over them easily. When they are up you can drive under neath them. but most important they give excellent access from underneath. I am not sure exactly how much they would be to have in your garage, But i think Work paid around £2000 each for them.
Worth Looking at
http://slift.cdmm.de/katalogeng-c14-2
Worth Looking at
http://slift.cdmm.de/katalogeng-c14-2
castorcamber said:
I have bought several of these for my workshop at work, they are the bees knees for many reasons. 1 when they are down they are very low ie. you can drive over them easily. When they are up you can drive under neath them. but most important they give excellent access from underneath. I am not sure exactly how much they would be to have in your garage, But i think Work paid around £2000 each for them.
Worth Looking at
http://slift.cdmm.de/katalogeng-c14-2
Worth Looking at
http://slift.cdmm.de/katalogeng-c14-2
I like the look of them there, nice and compact, now where do I put it ?
My solution has been a Hammar car lift and large 12 ton draper axle stands. This gives the flexibility of leaving the car on the wheels if chassis is a little poor (currently restoring a TR6) and lifting clear by raising car to desired height and then lower ing the ramp so car rests onto the stands. Only problem so far has been the lowering of the diff assembly from 3ft up but hope not to do this to often even so a bike/quad jack may be the solution
http://uk.geocities.com/philipyerbury
http://uk.geocities.com/philipyerbury
Got to build the roof, walls, and floor first!Stability would be the thing that I would worry about with your solution. Cordinating how they go up would be an issue as well.
The portable lifts are available in single phase - Frost do themn and they come up on eBay. I would recommend the addition of 12 ton axle stands as it does make life easier.
The portable lifts are available in single phase - Frost do themn and they come up on eBay. I would recommend the addition of 12 ton axle stands as it does make life easier.
blueone said:
My solution has been a Hammar car lift and large 12 ton draper axle stands. This gives the flexibility of leaving the car on the wheels if chassis is a little poor (currently restoring a TR6) and lifting clear by raising car to desired height and then lower ing the ramp so car rests onto the stands. Only problem so far has been the lowering of the diff assembly from 3ft up but hope not to do this to often even so a bike/quad jack may be the solution
http://uk.geocities.com/philipyerbury
I have looked at the Hammar but the size (storage) and cost have put me off a bit. My intended method wont lift quite as high(0.8 m) but it does provide flexibility... once up on axle stands the diff can be manoeuvred using the transmission jack. Also there are only two jacks to semi-simultaneously raise/lower. http://uk.geocities.com/philipyerbury
No solution is without compromise so it's down to personal preference what you compromise on.
leorest said:
cuneus said:
How are you going to lift the car to get it on the axle stands.
CTJ100to lift the rear HLPT685 To lift the front
cuneus said:
The scissor lifts are portable
That's what I wanted to do but the Machinemart one is obsolete and I havn't seen a single phase one made anywhere.
Try Butts of Bawdry, Tel 01302 710868
shpub said:
Stability would be the thing that I would worry about with your solution. Cordinating how they go up would be an issue as well.
The portable lifts are available in single phase - Frost do themn and they come up on eBay. I would recommend the addition of 12 ton axle stands as it does make life easier.
Yes it's hard to say exactly how (un!)stable it is likely to be without actually trying it. I've got a few mechanical design engineers in the family so I might ask them to do some sums. I'll have a look at the Frost website (if they have one ###). The portable lifts are available in single phase - Frost do themn and they come up on eBay. I would recommend the addition of 12 ton axle stands as it does make life easier.
Giant axle stands are definitely a requirement. I am also interested in performing my own alignments so I will probably make some adjustable platforms so that I can have the vehicle raised and levelled for accurate measurements/adjustments... another project!
Thanks for the comments, much appreciated
Leo
edit to add ### found it www.frost.co.uk/
Edited by leorest on Wednesday 6th September 09:39
cuneus said:
Certainly worth considering I'll have to see what's available when the time comes to buy.shpub said:
Stability would be the thing that I would worry about with your solution.
Thinking about this a bit more these are basically acting like large trolley jacks with extra width = stability. I'll still take some engineering advice but my gut feeling is it should be safe. Don't worry I'm not inclined to risk life and limb on a gut feeling. HLPT685=685mm wide so at 800 mm high it should be pretty stable.
CTJ100= Not as wide but still wider than any trolley jack I've seen!
Remember this is purely for lifting up onto stands and not for working on!
shpub said:
Cordinating how they go up would be an issue as well.
The Hammar has four independent jacks so, with my two, I have half the problem. Two people synchronised or one person moving from end to end "walking" it up. As it is only lifting 800mm I reckon I'll only need a couple of circuits so I wont need a lie down afterwards 
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