Wedge ECU's
Wedge ECU's
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Jack Valiant

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1,894 posts

266 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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Hi Guys

Trying a long shot with the recurring running problems I have had with the 350i. We are convinced that the last remaining item to check is the ECU... which car did the ECU come fom (my car is a 89 350i Flapper) Done all the usual things including checking connections earths and dry joints etc and none found. I have found a small firm in Gillingham that will test and refurb them in 3 days for £30 but I need to tell them what car it originally came from.

Thanks in advance

Chris

pistolar

1,474 posts

298 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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Rover SD1 Vitesse

GreenV8S

31,020 posts

314 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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If it's a flapper then it will be running a Lucas 14CU.

Trickie Dickie

2,399 posts

264 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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Hi Chris

I had running problems when I had my 89 350i
and it was the ECU

Wedg1e kindly resoldered the joints for me and the car ran perfect again

Hope this helps

Richard

Jack Valiant

Original Poster:

1,894 posts

266 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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Thanks guys.. have had it open and checked for dry joints but no obvious ones spotted. Will send it off for checking.

dickymint

29,093 posts

288 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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Jack - Save yourself £30 find somebody local to swap it over. Personally I think it is irrelevant "what car it's off" either it has a fault or it doesn't. shout Come on guys we can fix this problem!

leorest

2,346 posts

269 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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Dry joints can be difficult to see. Sometimes they look OK but when you touch them with a soldering tip you can see the solder move away from the component leg. Sometimes a sharp tap with the handle of a screwdriver to the unit case will make the fault come/go, as expertly demoed by Wedg1e at this years Fest.

Another possibility is the ECU multiplug could be not fully home (think clunk click) or it could have corroded contacts which can be cleaned with switch cleaner and a few plug/unplug cycles.

I retouched every joint on both boards myself. Took my time and spent ages double and triple checking I hadn't left a wispy short anywhere. The car hasn't missed beat since and that was about six years ago!

30 quid doesn't sound like a lot. What do they claim to do?

leorest

2,346 posts

269 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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Jack Valiant said:
...Will send it off for checking.
If it was me I would want to make sure I got the same boards back. Note any serial numbers and if there aren't any marker-pen something unique on the board.

Jack Valiant

Original Poster:

1,894 posts

266 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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Thanks guys.. FrenchTVR has agreed to test mine in his car as a start. This firm apparently have a test rig with all the various car / model parameters set up in it so they just need to know the original car? They test for £30 and can refurbish as well it seems.

Tried and cleaned the multiplug and all seems well.


leorest

2,346 posts

269 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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The problem with dry joints is the symptoms are often intermittent so a quick £30 test could well result in a ""No Fault Found" clean bill of health, only to find the next time you go bumping/crashing down the road the old problem raises it's ugly head. If you are lucky the fault will be active when the test is done but then you need to find out what they charge to fix it?

jmorgan

36,010 posts

314 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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leorest said:
Dry joints can be difficult to see. Sometimes they look OK but when you touch them with a soldering tip you can see the solder move away from the component leg. Sometimes a sharp tap with the handle of a screwdriver to the unit case will make the fault come/go, as expertly demoed by Wedg1e at this years Fest.

Another possibility is the ECU multiplug could be not fully home (think clunk click) or it could have corroded contacts which can be cleaned with switch cleaner and a few plug/unplug cycles.

I retouched every joint on both boards myself. Took my time and spent ages double and triple checking I hadn't left a wispy short anywhere. The car hasn't missed beat since and that was about six years ago!

30 quid doesn't sound like a lot. What do they claim to do?
Scuse me chipping in on the dry joint. Its can also be very obvious the way solder forms around the pin. Bit hard to describe but maybe obvious if you are used to it. You can still get dry joints with what appears to be a well formed join though. Sometimes the way the flux from solder gives it away. Tapping is also our preferred method on occasions although slamming a van door was the culprit on one. Proved to a poorly crimped joint that tapping wouldn't show.
Also the tracks can come adrift and crack or migration between tracks or just crud and dust..

leorest

2,346 posts

269 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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jmorgan said:
Lots of good stuff
Agreed. My point was that while dry joints are often obvious to see it is also a possability that a near perfect looking joint can also be dry. I have had to replace components which looked well soldered but upon application of heat and flux simply would not wet properly.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

314 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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Aye, just trying to add to the melting pot of solder wisdom so to speakwink

Not forgetting an iron too long on, can cook a component, lift a track or de glue and de solder other components.....wink

dickymint

29,093 posts

288 months

Saturday 22nd September 2007
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Jack Valiant said:
Thanks guys.. FrenchTVR has agreed to test mine in his car as a start.
clap

TVRleigh(BBWR)

6,553 posts

243 months

Sunday 23rd September 2007
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Hi Chris.
I have a spare ECU and flapper.
So you can allways borrow that if yours does turn out to be faulty. and just give it back once yours is fixed.

Leigh

Jack Valiant

Original Poster:

1,894 posts

266 months

Sunday 23rd September 2007
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Thats great could you pm me on my profile to sort out a mutually convenient time to collect fella?

Cheers

Chris

Wedg1e

27,038 posts

295 months

Monday 24th September 2007
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GreenV8S said:
If it's a flapper then it will be running a Lucas 14CU.
Peter... flapper has a 4CU, hotwire has a 14CUX.

GreenV8S

31,020 posts

314 months

Monday 24th September 2007
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Wedg1e said:
GreenV8S said:
If it's a flapper then it will be running a Lucas 14CU.
Peter... flapper has a 4CU, hotwire has a 14CUX.
I agree.