Original wheels don't fit?
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When we bought the Tasmin several years ago, we got 2 sets of rims. One set was on it, the other (original) rims were extra.We like the originals more, so we planned to switch them. We ordered 4 new tyres (205/60 R14, which should be the right size) and replaced the wheels. The problem: When you go around the corner, the fronswheels rub against the body. The right wheel against the inside of the body and the left against the outside.
Anyone who recognize this problem? And what have you done to get it right?
>>> Edited by Cathelijne on Saturday 13th September 19:26
Anyone who recognize this problem? And what have you done to get it right?
>>> Edited by Cathelijne on Saturday 13th September 19:26
Hi, it sounds like your wheels don't all have the same offset. This is the distance between the mounting flange and the centerline of the wheel. They may have the offset marked on them, alternatively it's easy enough to measure if you have a ruler and a couple of straight edges. Suggest you measure the old wheels (don't assume they are the same front and back) and then compare with the new ones. I don't know whether the front and rear are supposed to be identical, but if not it may be something easy like front wheels on the back?
If one is rubbing on the outside and one on the inside - could it be the body is a tad out of line on the chassis? - Sorry to be pesimistic. However on my 400 SE the wheels did touch the inside of the front arches - I've seen this on a few cars.
What are thw wheels - the solid disc type or the cross spokes?
GB
What are thw wheels - the solid disc type or the cross spokes?
GB
TaSmania said:
If one is rubbing on the outside and one on the inside - could it be the body is a tad out of line on the chassis?
This were also our thoughts.
TaSmania said:
What are the wheels - the solid disc type or the cross spokes?
The wheels are the solid disc type.
>> Edited by Cathelijne on Sunday 14th September 19:21
sevans said:
Could there be something worn in the suspension??? Wishbone bushes or compliance bushes? It should be easy to tell if the body is offset, but not so easy to correct.
Well, we wouldn't be surprised if the body would be off-set. We made some modifications to the car (bumpers, rear lights, covering on the doors. Topic: www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=12&h=0&t=40051) and discovered that the left side isn't particularly the same as the right... And the wheels only rub against the body when you take a sharp turn (to fast).
>> Edited by Cathelijne on Monday 15th September 13:27
Cathelijne,
Looking at the pictures, your rear wheel geometry looks way off, mad amounts of camber.
As for wheel clearance, My 1980 280i FHC 2+2 body only has enough space in the rear wheel arches to accomodate something like a 175 wide tyre. I checked on a friend's 1985 350i convertable, and there is a lot more room in the rear wheel wheels, I guess the only solution is to raise the rear ride height, since the rear inner arches are not functional for 205 series wheels. (I have 215 series on mine, and they rub if you go over a bump). I guess you could always put skinnier wheels on!!
-Jim
Looking at the pictures, your rear wheel geometry looks way off, mad amounts of camber.
As for wheel clearance, My 1980 280i FHC 2+2 body only has enough space in the rear wheel arches to accomodate something like a 175 wide tyre. I checked on a friend's 1985 350i convertable, and there is a lot more room in the rear wheel wheels, I guess the only solution is to raise the rear ride height, since the rear inner arches are not functional for 205 series wheels. (I have 215 series on mine, and they rub if you go over a bump). I guess you could always put skinnier wheels on!!
-Jim
jchase said:
Cathelijne,
Looking at the pictures, your rear wheel geometry looks way off, mad amounts of camber.
As for wheel clearance, My 1980 280i FHC 2+2 body only has enough space in the rear wheel arches to accomodate something like a 175 wide tyre. I checked on a friend's 1985 350i convertable, and there is a lot more room in the rear wheel wheels, I guess the only solution is to raise the rear ride height, since the rear inner arches are not functional for 205 series wheels. (I have 215 series on mine, and they rub if you go over a bump). I guess you could always put skinnier wheels on!!
-Jim
The wheels you see on the picture aren't the solid disc ones.
We are working on the camber, today there is an appointment to place new shims (Previous owner removed them
). The problem of rubbing is a problem of the front wheels, not the rear. And they do not always rub, just when you take a sharp turn. We ordered this size of tyres because the literature (Wedge Bible) say it is the right size. We don't just order a random size because we think it looks good!
>> Edited by Cathelijne on Tuesday 16th September 07:57
sevans said:
Are you really sure that all the wishbone bushes and compliance bushes are OK? Had this on mine and the fix was to replace the compliance bushes.
Checking on it. We also have a problem with the height on the front. Left is 8 cm
higher then the right. We thought it were the springs, but maybe there is something else wrong.I read somewhere that onother owner had this problem and could never get to the bottom of it, that was just how it was ( can't remember where i read it and sorry to be negative, must be old age ) I have a 1986 350i and it is deffinately higher one side than the other and does rub on the inner wing. I just assumed it was the suspension and was going to check it. Did you get anywhere with checking yours.
We made some measures on the car and saw that the left and right side aren't very symmetric. The left side has 2 cm more bodywork above the frontwheel then the right side. And this is just an easy the measure part of the car. We ordered some springs, but it takes quite a while to get them here (in Holland). For the rest it's OK, (most of) the parts mentioned above are allmost new.
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