350i keeps cutting out when hot!
350i keeps cutting out when hot!
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singh350i

Original Poster:

66 posts

203 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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hi guys my wedge runs lumpy on tickover when it gets hot and wants to cut out and every time u slow down as ur approaching a junction it stalls. i will be giving it a full service soon.

has anybody else come across this problem with a wedge?

thanx raj.

peaktorque

1,807 posts

241 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Lumpy tick-over - yes, but it's quite even. (but I quite like that on a TVR as it intimidates passengers wink )

Cutting-out - No, not now, but it did with my old air-flow meter.

Have a look for air leaks.

smile

Wedg1e

27,040 posts

295 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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That's like asking if you get poppadoms wih an Indian meal wink

Sounds like you just need the base settings tweaking - throttle plate clearance, throttle pot setting, idle speed, ignition timing.

After that... air leaks, fuel pressure...

Pop to the library and borrow an SD1 or Range Rover Classic manual; most of what you need will be in there. Failing that you can find them on Ebay for pennies.

singh350i

Original Poster:

66 posts

203 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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hah hah very funny! it most definately needs setting and tuning up as its been sat for a long while, but if its cutting out isent that a mechanical problem?

honestjohntoo

576 posts

246 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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Cutting out is not the same as stalling. Presumably it restarts and continues to run lumpy until is stalls again. So very likely not ignition either.

And generally stalling will be a mixture problem, most likely not a mechanical defect.

Because it stalls at slow revs this implies a weak mixture as the torque at idle with a weak mixture is abysmal. Also, although not definitive unlikely to be a gross rich mixture otherwise flooding would disallow easy restarting.

Weak mixtures are nearly always caused by rogue air leaks, so you have to test for them.

find a complete process here:

http://www.vintagemodelairplane.com/pages/Rover_Te...

There are seemingly easier ways, using a tin of plus gas or wd40, but if after they don't expose a leak, the recommended process will give you the definitive result.

Because the majority of your Efi system faults are caused by rogue air leaks and local Efi wiring/connector problems these are the first ports of call.

Bear in mind that your Efi plenum may be well and truly gummed up due to poor plenum preventative maintenance in combination with accumulated crap coming from the crankcase ventilation system. Check out the idle and breather galleries and if they are blocked the plenum innards are defo in dire condition.

Next, certain sensor components come under suspicion regarding mixture control. You'll know what they are from your prior studies of recommended reading material, but think about coolant temp sensor, throttle pot, pressure regulator and AFM, all easily tested by the processes available from the Efi component index

http://www.vintagemodelairplane.com/pages/Rover_Te...

One other thing to bear in mind, an Efi V8 stood for a long time will certainly suffer these days from crud in the fuel system. Many emerging SD1 Efi's are so affected, with complete systems from tank to filter needing cleaning.

They run OK for a short while after resurrection, then the system starts to falter, the pump seizes, the filter clogs and - Bingo - the light goes out! Lots more fun to come - methinks?

If you are having problems getting the Gist of your Efi System, obtain a copy of the efi ops manual.

Be Lucky.


Pilo-Wedgebits

621 posts

241 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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John
What would you recommend you do to a wedge that has just come out of a long period of "storage"

Cheers Shaun

singh350i

Original Poster:

66 posts

203 months

Wednesday 11th November 2009
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thats exactly what its doing when its getting hot[stalling]. i will get it running right just as long its all done for the summertime, i think its all part of the fun!

thanx for the help john.

honestjohntoo

576 posts

246 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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Pilo-Wedgebits said:
John, What would you recommend you do to a wedge that has just come out of a long period of "storage" Cheers Shaun
Shaun, See new thread with some thoughts on your question.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=5&a...

Edited by honestjohntoo on Thursday 12th November 17:00

Jonny weggie

1,607 posts

221 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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Raj, enjoy the wedge dome, how long has your car been sat up for because it could be old petrol. I had that problem once with a old mini,petrol was old and dirty changed it for new stuff and started on the second turn.
I know that might sound too easy, but who know's.
regards jonny...

rev-erend

21,623 posts

314 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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It just needs a dam good clear out .. biggrin

Drive it like you stole it hehe


singh350i

Original Poster:

66 posts

203 months

Thursday 12th November 2009
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jonnie weggie: u never know there could be some crap sat in the tank it has been sat for about a year, worth doing all the genaral checks first.

revernd: i drive my cossie like i stole it seems to work everytime its been sat for a while.