rebuilt engine problem.
rebuilt engine problem.
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Bobbybedtime

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71 posts

209 months

Wednesday 10th February 2010
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Hi all,
I had to replace some failed parts in my engine, I started last year in about august and have just got to the point of trying to start it. Took so long due to work commitments. Anyway after lots of new parts including cam I was ready to fire it up on Saturday. So, primed the fuel system, primed the oil system and filled with coolant. Turned the key, spun over but would not fire. Absolutely sure cam timing is ok, distributer and leads all connected ok. Can't find anything wrong as yet. After many atempts and adjustments of ignition timing I got it to run on say four.

After thinking about it I may not have primed the oil system as I should have. I spun the pump and checked oil was coming from where it should have been.
I was wondering if I should have primmed it to the point all followers were full of oil. From what I've read it takes a couple of minutes at 2500 rpm for things to get right. So is there a chance my valves were not operating correctly. I'm thinking / hoping this may be the problem. Anyone any experience of this.
Regards, BBT.

hallsie

2,185 posts

250 months

Wednesday 10th February 2010
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Try a change of fuel!

Unleaded goes off after a while and simply wont fire up, I think it has something to do with evaporation of the additives...

Stu

Bobbybedtime

Original Poster:

71 posts

209 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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Hi stu,
syphoned out fuel and topped up with fresh so should be ok.
Run it up again today after spinning the oil pump up on a drill, running on 'more' cyclinders but very noisey and rough still.
Regards,
BBT.

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

290 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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The valves will be opening but not by much until the oil pressure's up and filled the lifters. It may sound rough for quite a while.

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Thursday 11th February 2010
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What bits did you change on the engine?

Presumably the dizzy came off and went back on - what else? Heads?

Are the sensors all connected up OK?

Also check for air leaks in/around the plenum and pipes.

Bobbybedtime

Original Poster:

71 posts

209 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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Thanks for the replies,
I'm working for the next few days so wont get to look at it for a while.
I will make all the checks suggested just in case.

Adam,
I replaced the tin gasket with composite and skimmed the heads .020 '' to compensate.
Cleaned and ground the valves in, new rocker shaft, rockers, push rods, lifters, camshaft, oil pump/gears, injectors serviced plus new HP fuel hose on injectors, new JP timing chain and gears. Its got new cap, leads, plugs and FPR from before the strip down. new gaskets and replaced oil lines to remote filter. As you know, loads of plugs disconected to get plenum and inlet manifold off, also removed anything that was in my way like the AFM.

Regards,
BBT

Wedg1e

27,040 posts

295 months

Saturday 13th February 2010
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If it sounds like it's only running on four, it might be, if the ECU's playing up. The injectors are fired in two banks of 4 (left and right). Unlikely, but you never know.
You may have some stuck injectors, they don't like being dry for long periods. You're quite sure you had no. 1 cylinder at TDC on compression when you timed the distributor up?
The cam followers should prime a lot quicker than 'a couple of minutes' even from dry, and anyway on a newly-built engine I wouldn't be looking for 2500 revs for a good while.
Shame you're a bit far from me, I could have popped along with some test kit...

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

234 months

Saturday 13th February 2010
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Wedg1e said:
on a newly-built engine I wouldn't be looking for 2500 revs for a good while.
You will need to run it at 2500 for 20 minutes or so to bed in the new cam.

Wedg1e

27,040 posts

295 months

Saturday 13th February 2010
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Barkychoc said:
Wedg1e said:
on a newly-built engine I wouldn't be looking for 2500 revs for a good while.
You will need to run it at 2500 for 20 minutes or so to bed in the new cam.
Not before I was bloody sure I had no oil or coolant leaks and was definitely getting oil to the rocker gear... wink