2nd call from garage..

[mrzigazaga]

Well looks like the previous owner was a proper rodney.. It should of hit me when i read new fuel pump had been fitted in ad before i bought it.. hes only put a inline fuel filter directly after the pump..what a praaaat..Fuel metering unit was full of rust..two injectors were blocked..Guy at garage said hes been driving it around the yard..bd..so far hes replaced the metering head and a couple of injectors..replaced the WUR..tested fuel pressure and is replacing petrol hose from tank to swirl pot(which i supplied)..hes checked over the chassis and said its in good nick..no rot..said its not a bad car..just needs a little bit of cash spent on it..so far the bill comes to £200 with parts and labour and vat..I think ive found a genuine fellow..he will definately get more work from me as they restore cars as well..you wanna see the grin on my moosh..

[900T-R]

£200 so far... not bad going is it? I seem to get slapped with a four figure bill every time I set foot in a garage... I'm exaggerating, but not by much.

[adam quantrill]

Sounds good - has he found where the grinding noise is coming from?

[mrzigazaga]

Yep..i think weve all been there matey..It is nice to find people that dont suck air through there teeth or raise their eyebrows and look down at the ground when you ask for the bill..you know they are trying it on..This fellow is part of a long running family business that loves the car as much as the work..proper old school friendly capers..so far so good..will be recomending him to anyone local with ford based engines..although he does rovers as well..hes a very nice man..not like the RAC..They broke down coming to recover me...

[mrzigazaga]

Hi adam..not yet mate..i asked him to get it running first before he does anything else..I have given him a list and told him of that noise..he had a look at most of the underneath and give it the thumbs up..Hopefully that isnt a major fault..would be horrid if it pi55ed on me parade now..still i got a budget of £700 and if its all done under that..roadworthy..driveable..grin factor..ill be well chuffed..Do you wanna know the craziest part about it all.. all i wanted to do was hoover out that poxy seat eating fury maggot brain scratchy mouse mofos nest thats still in the boot along with all the stuffing he nicked out me seats..Hes lucky hes dead already..Id love to find his skull and preserve it in ceramic and mount it inside the car somewhere.

[ihouston]

Dont understand your comment about inline filter after the pump - they are all fitted with one of these mine is just before the metering unit - some people have one before the pump between the pump and fuel tank as well to protect the pump from rust out of the tank. not sure how in line filter would cause you a problem unless it was completely full of muck.

[taz turbo]

I agree with the comment that the filter SHOULD be there, some are next to the pump, others next to the fuel metering unit.

I regularly put a litre of methelated spirit in the fuel, it allows any water to mix with the petrol and then burnt as normal, not sitting in the system causing rust.

Interestingly my car has alloy fuel tanks from the factory! Amongst other oddities!

Really pleased to hear there's light at the end of the tunnel, another early wedge saved, good man.

Chris.

[mrzigazaga]

Im not 100% sure about it.. but it looks like a clear plastic container that is full of cr*p (dont even look like a fuel filter).. it is situated in-between the pump and the feed from the tank(i think)might be tut other way round..will ask..I already have a bulkhead fitted pressurised fuel filter so why he put one there i dont know.. The guy at garage said it shouldnt be there and it is contributing to the bad running..although like you say some have fitted for prolonging pump life..also he mentioned that my fuel tanks are plastic..is that right? cheers ..

Edited by mrzigazaga on Friday 24th September 14:17

[mrzigazaga]

Just got another call.. The fuel tanks have such contaminated fuel where it has been sat for such a long time..I was told when i bought it that its only sat for a couple of months..Bad news is the tanks have got like a waxy layer of contaminated fuel on them and the only remedy for is tanks out..power wash..If its easy to get at tanks could be done today if not hes fully booked next week so ill have to wait..He quoted about £400 including what he has done already..I had to mention ive only got a budget of 7-800 and he said it wont come to that much with it all done(all on the list i gave him as well)..Exhausts are leaking everywhere and he will try to weld for now as they can be expensive..Hes confident that this was the fault.and at the end of the day he prefers cash so no Vat..what a result

Edited by mrzigazaga on Friday 24th September 15:25

[TVRleigh_BBWR]

Not sure of the V6 cars,
But the V8 cars had a coarse pre-filter in the swirl pot to protect the pump, and then a fine filter after the pump to protect the injectors.

Problem was later swirl pots did not have this, so pumps would not last long. also some after market pre-filters was too fine and would not let enough fuel to flow. sytec do one, that has a optional copper filter, for use as a pre-filter. they are not cheap though. your looking at £200 for pump pre-filter and injection filter. but I know a lot of people here who have had problems before but not after fitting the above.

not sure though if the V6 was the same or has the same requirements.

[mrzigazaga]

All i remember was when i spoke to someone a elmwood TVR they were the first to suggest a drain out ,tank flush,new pipe and fresh fuel..I did ask as regards to fuel filter and i recall being told not to put one in between the pump and the tank as i will effect the pressure as there is one in the swirl pot..By all means filters after pump to metering unit but making sure they can run the right fuel pressure..They actually hit the nail on the head the first time i bought the car ..i think they are eligeable for some jelly babies too..Been toying with paint colour only because ive just re-installed photoshop..I do like it this sort of colour..

Edited by mrzigazaga on Friday 24th September 18:21

[grahamw48]

The uploader thing seems knacked at the moment.


Oh, and meant to say:

Order of components in 2.8i Capri workshop manual is :

Fuel tank

Fuel Pump

Fuel 'Accumulator' (swirlpot?)

Fuel Filter

Mixture control unit.

I would have thought a fairly coarse filter between tank and pump would be a good idea, and because it's BEFORE the pump, wouldn't affect pressure.

Edited by grahamw48 on Friday 24th September 18:31

[mrzigazaga]

It seems ok now..

[jeff m]

CIS hates dirt, and it relies on pressure to run correctly, that's the reason it has a relatively large fuel filter and the Bosch one is around $70 (in the US). A small filter will clog more quickly and affect flow etc etc.
It sounds like you have found yourself a good mechanic.

Own up....you didn't do that flow test did you

Jeff.

Edit to delete advice about tanks as I missed the "tanks out bit"

Edited by jeff m on Friday 24th September 18:38

[mrzigazaga]

Ok jeff..you got me..i didnt do a proper test just undid it a little bit ere n there..but like i did say i dont like messing with fuel..I got to be honest here..a little while back when i was fiddling with it i had a small fire.. luckily nothing got burnt..not even me..so ill leave that to someome else thank you..Yep it does seem like ive found a good honest mechanic and at only £50ph cash its a ruddy bargain,He uses parts that hes refurbed so the parts he takes off can be refurbed and re-used..He put a spare metering head on as he had one there also a WUR and a couple of new injectors..for £100..spent 2hrs time £100..I hope he dont have grief gettin tanks out..

Edited by mrzigazaga on Friday 24th September 18:55

[jeff m]

mrzigazaga said:

Ok jeff..you got me..i didnt do a proper test just undid it a little bit ere n there

No problem, but I'm not gonna miss out on a chance to rib you a bit now that all seems to be moving in the right direction.

[mrzigazaga]

Dont tempt fate ya bugga..I aint got it back yet..

[MJG280]

I seem to remember others who have taken tanks out without a body off saying that one comes ut ok but the other requires a hole to be cut in the fibreglass behind the seats to allow it to be taken out. Can't remember which side though

[mrzigazaga]

Thanks Mjg..That sounds like its gonna be a beach..hope he can do it somehow without cutting holes..

[1 Finger Bandit]

I must be thick... why take the tanks out? Surely any cleaning can be done in situ if required at all. Won't the fresh fuel dissolve the waxy coating with time?