Naked Pics needed
Naked Pics needed
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Graham

Original Poster:

16,381 posts

314 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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Hi, all I need to get hold of some chassis pics, preferably of a rolling chassis with the v6 engine and 5 speed box in place.

any pics will do but im expecially interested in the chassis around the gearbox.

Cheers

G

york33

995 posts

292 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Here's a few from when I was pulling mine apart biggrin I've various others if you need them. PM me with an email address as it gets jolly tedious uploading them here!







cheers
Dave

york33

995 posts

292 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Oh bu$$er, just realised you said 5-speed box! Sorry, that's a 4-speed, as you've probably just seen, oh well, hope they're of some use anyway!

hallsie

2,185 posts

250 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Dave

Could you send me over the rest of the chassis pics to
hallsie29@hotmail.com
please.

Thanks

Stu

york33

995 posts

292 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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YHM Stu

Graham

Original Poster:

16,381 posts

314 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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dave thanks for those, gives me a start. YHM.

G

MJG280

723 posts

289 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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I had a 5 speed gearbox installed in mine and it went in as a straight replacement except that the gearlever was a few millimetres further back and the output for the speedo had a different fitting.

Not a naked photo but shows the gearlever position


You can see that I carved a bit of fibreglass out at the rear and bent the lever a bit more. Hope that helps

Graham

Original Poster:

16,381 posts

314 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Ta, I have a 5 speed type 9 in there at the moment, but I have something more exotic in mind. its bolt compatible with the T9 ( although I need a different input shaft as the one i have was destined for a v8)

The box has 6 speeds and a leaver that only goes backwards and forwards :smile:

its just a bit taller than the T9 so may need a couple of subtle chassis mods. I dont have access to the car at the moment but the pics are proving useful.

Chassis 33

6,194 posts

312 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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Graham, I'll scan some of my Taz rebuild photos for you when I get a mo. Too much beer to get the engine out over the break, but when it does come out you're welcome to have a shufty around.
Regards
Iain

BadRed

3,450 posts

258 months

Wednesday 5th January 2011
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laugh

Chassis 33

6,194 posts

312 months

Wednesday 5th January 2011
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I'm fairly certain thats an M-chassis not Wedge redcard

Regards
Iain

Graham

Original Poster:

16,381 posts

314 months

Wednesday 5th January 2011
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Chassis? What chassis?.

Yep that's an M 2500M I think. That pic was done like that to distract you from looking at the st welding.

Wedg1e

27,041 posts

295 months

Wednesday 5th January 2011
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Graham said:
Chassis? What chassis?.

Yep that's an M 2500M I think. That pic was done like that to distract you from looking at the st welding.
It never got much better, I recall seeing some Carb chassis at the factory, welding by Mr. Blobby!

I asked the tour guide if they did any non-destructive testing of new chassis and he hopped from one foot to the other, coughed a bit, rolled his eyes a bit and said "Er...yeah...we...er... ultrasonic them."
Which is complete ballcocks: UT (ultrasonic testing) won't tell you quickly if the weld's any good, you'd need x-ray for that whistle
Maybe they had an ultrasonic thickness gauge that they used to check the wall thickness of tube and plate, but using a true flaw detector to determine weld penetration etc. is a skilled craft - if there was a Level 3 UT tech. in there I'll eat my underwear: Peter wouldn't have paid the money wink

J.B.R.

108 posts

245 months

Wednesday 5th January 2011
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Wedg1e, the welds, tube diameter and wall thickness are too small for UT, especially in those days. In addition, the geometry of most welds is all wrong to get the sound in given that most are fillet type and not true full pen welds. Surface NDT would have been best option to quickly find cracking, pores, porosity and so on. Looking at the welds I've seen on some wedges, it's doubtful this was done!

J.B.R.

108 posts

245 months

Wednesday 5th January 2011
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Wedg1e, the welds, tube diameter and wall thickness are too small for UT, especially in those days. In addition, the geometry of most welds is all wrong to get the sound in given that most are fillet type and not true full pen welds. Surface NDT would have been best option to quickly find cracking, pores, porosity and so on. Looking at the welds I've seen on some wedges, it's doubtful this was done!
ETA: double post, dang I-phone...

Edited by J.B.R. on Wednesday 5th January 20:53

Graham

Original Poster:

16,381 posts

314 months

Wednesday 5th January 2011
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More like they welded them up then pushed them outside for a few weeks, if nothing fell off they used them.hehe

Campbell

2,500 posts

313 months

Wednesday 5th January 2011
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BadRed said:
laugh
Thats a M yuMMMM

BadRed

3,450 posts

258 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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Wedg1e

27,041 posts

295 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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J.B.R. said:
Wedg1e, the welds, tube diameter and wall thickness are too small for UT, especially in those days. In addition, the geometry of most welds is all wrong to get the sound in given that most are fillet type and not true full pen welds. Surface NDT would have been best option to quickly find cracking, pores, porosity and so on. Looking at the welds I've seen on some wedges, it's doubtful this was done!
Absolutely. Can't see them doing dye pen or MPI though, too slow and fiddly on a chassis. To be fair, I don't think there's a car assembly technique that DOES involve any NDT; certainly spot-welded monococques just rely on the welder being set up correctly - so on a tube chassis it's down to the integrity of the MIG-monkey wink

J.B.R.

108 posts

245 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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You're right Wedg1e, I've never seen any chassis photos with evidence of mpi or dpi remnants on the welds.
On normal cars, NDT is more common than you may think e.g. Toyota carry out specialist UT on spot welds on the wings to inner wings on some models as this is a main strength area for the crash test. Jaguar used to x-ray the cross members on the xjs.
NDT mainly started in formula 1 following the senna crash attributed to poor welding on the steering column.