It's a sort of what car thread...
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As some of you might be aware I've been without a set of fun wheels for a little while now. It's a long and dull story but I managed to leave myself without a job for 2 months, so the Boxster had to go.
However, after nearly 11 months out of full-time work, I'm starting full-time again at the start of November. So it seems only fair to treat myself to some new wheels!
After driving an ST and reading the long term review in EVO, I'd had my heart set on a Focus RS, which comes in at the princely sum of as near as dammit £30k!
So I pointed this out to a mate of mine who pointed me in the direction of a tidy 3.4 Carrera (996) for about £19k.
No my question is this, should I follow my heart and tie myself down to the Focus for a few years or go back to Porsche ownership? I've loved Cosworth's for years and have always wanted one and to be honest the Focus lights my fire more than the 911. However, is it worth the extra money over the 911?!
Should you want to confuse me further, feel free to suggest cars under £20k. However, they must conform to the following rules:
However, after nearly 11 months out of full-time work, I'm starting full-time again at the start of November. So it seems only fair to treat myself to some new wheels!
After driving an ST and reading the long term review in EVO, I'd had my heart set on a Focus RS, which comes in at the princely sum of as near as dammit £30k!

So I pointed this out to a mate of mine who pointed me in the direction of a tidy 3.4 Carrera (996) for about £19k.
No my question is this, should I follow my heart and tie myself down to the Focus for a few years or go back to Porsche ownership? I've loved Cosworth's for years and have always wanted one and to be honest the Focus lights my fire more than the 911. However, is it worth the extra money over the 911?!
Should you want to confuse me further, feel free to suggest cars under £20k. However, they must conform to the following rules:
- Must be at least a 2+2
- No Caterfield type cars
- No TVR's (Sorry
)
I don't think it's been blown out of all proportion, 993s didn't break as a whole, 996s can and do and cost a fortune to put right.
If you're going in with your eyes open then get a 996, I'd like something like this not a really early one: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1273323.htm however I'd still want a warranty with it.
If you're going in with your eyes open then get a 996, I'd like something like this not a really early one: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1273323.htm however I'd still want a warranty with it.
nonuts said:
I don't think it's been blown out of all proportion, 993s didn't break as a whole, 996s can and do and cost a fortune to put right.
If you're going in with your eyes open then get a 996, I'd like something like this not a really early one: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1273323.htm however I'd still want a warranty with it.
I disagree about the RMS issue, but anyway. That one you linked to is nice, but too much and the red leather in the 'flesh' is horrific. Looks like a chicken tikka exploded inside the car!If you're going in with your eyes open then get a 996, I'd like something like this not a really early one: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1273323.htm however I'd still want a warranty with it.
I was looking for a black with black, but that age / C4s is the one I'd want not a cheaper older one, well that was the conclusion I came to anyway.
How about a 6 series?
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1310204.htm
How about a 6 series?
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1310204.htm
TheArchitect said:
Meganne 225 renaultspor f1 r26 thingymabob?
M3 would certainly get me thinking,
S2000
Megane - I've quite like, the F1 would be the choice, but I'm never sure how well they wearM3 would certainly get me thinking,
S2000
M3 - Is tempting, not sure I like the image though
S2000 - Tried on before buying the Boxster, found it too narrow and not that much of a fan of the car
If you really like the Focus RS, then may I suggest the Focus RS?
No point in getting a "dream car" Porker if it isn't *your* dream
Just to add an Italian option:
Alfa Brera 3.2V6 4WD (so most power goes to the back wheels as well as it looking nice): http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1317185.htm
No point in getting a "dream car" Porker if it isn't *your* dream

Just to add an Italian option:
Alfa Brera 3.2V6 4WD (so most power goes to the back wheels as well as it looking nice): http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1317185.htm
RMS is one of a few serious 996 problems. The point is that if you get a car which has had an RMS replaced in the past it is likely to need it again in the future - the engine casings don't line up properly. If you find a highish mileage 996 (50k+) which doesn't have the RMS issue and hasn't in the past then it's not likely to in the future.
The way to avoid this problem of course is to buy a high mileage car with a known history, or buy a 964 bottom end (i.e. 996 GT2, GT3, or turbo).
But i digress. If the Focus floats your boat then buy it UNLESS you're worried about the money.
If you buy a £30k Focus it'll be worth half that if you're lucky in three years time.
If you spend a little less money on something like an E46 M3 CSL (as opposed to a normal M3) then you'll lose a lot less money. Or you could spend mid to high teens on a normal M3.
£25k on a second hand motor, especially in the one to three year old sector, is a VAST array of cars.
Do you like cab(riolet)s, do you prefer FWD or 4WD or RWD, do you do many trackdays or much european travel, do you need four seats?
The way to avoid this problem of course is to buy a high mileage car with a known history, or buy a 964 bottom end (i.e. 996 GT2, GT3, or turbo).
But i digress. If the Focus floats your boat then buy it UNLESS you're worried about the money.
If you buy a £30k Focus it'll be worth half that if you're lucky in three years time.
If you spend a little less money on something like an E46 M3 CSL (as opposed to a normal M3) then you'll lose a lot less money. Or you could spend mid to high teens on a normal M3.
£25k on a second hand motor, especially in the one to three year old sector, is a VAST array of cars.
Do you like cab(riolet)s, do you prefer FWD or 4WD or RWD, do you do many trackdays or much european travel, do you need four seats?
Nigel is correct.......there is no other car for the money.
You will get a high miler 911, with old 911 bills or a good 05 ish M3 coupe with about 30k miles for 20k....I know!!!!!!
there are 272 M3s on... PH take your pick....
Ive had 3 TVRs and 3 911s....for the money a 50K M3 now for 20k...fully loaded you cant beat......
Having said that one of our mates has a 54 plate Audi S4....40K miles, cab,£15k from dealer....4.2 V8...brill car, sounds great, 350 ish horses....check out classifieds.
You will get a high miler 911, with old 911 bills or a good 05 ish M3 coupe with about 30k miles for 20k....I know!!!!!!
there are 272 M3s on... PH take your pick....
Ive had 3 TVRs and 3 911s....for the money a 50K M3 now for 20k...fully loaded you cant beat......
Having said that one of our mates has a 54 plate Audi S4....40K miles, cab,£15k from dealer....4.2 V8...brill car, sounds great, 350 ish horses....check out classifieds.
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alright then what about a holden/monaro ?
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