Meadows Roundabout Chaos... Camberley.
Discussion
It was never the best of road junctions, but the last week has been bloody awful...
It's taking around 20 - 30 minutes to get from the M3 J4 past the Meadows when heading home to Owlsmoor.....
The lights "appear to be only on green for about 10 seconds in favour of M3 J4 - Bracknell traffic, this is obviously the cause, anyone know whether it's a fault or "experimental" phasing?
It's taking around 20 - 30 minutes to get from the M3 J4 past the Meadows when heading home to Owlsmoor.....
The lights "appear to be only on green for about 10 seconds in favour of M3 J4 - Bracknell traffic, this is obviously the cause, anyone know whether it's a fault or "experimental" phasing?
thatone1967 said:
It was never the best of road junctions, but the last week has been bloody awful...
It's taking around 20 - 30 minutes to get from the M3 J4 past the Meadows when heading home to Owlsmoor.....
The lights "appear to be only on green for about 10 seconds in favour of M3 J4 - Bracknell traffic, this is obviously the cause, anyone know whether it's a fault or "experimental" phasing?
Dunnoe, but it's 2 mins from my office, really noticed it's been piled up going from the M3 to it evey morning for the last week & quite bad most evenings. I come from the Bracknell side in the morning & I've not noticed any difference to be honest. However this morning came in from the M3 & there was no snarl up around 8am going doen to it. Just looked out the window & it's free flowing now too, so maybe it's changed back.It's taking around 20 - 30 minutes to get from the M3 J4 past the Meadows when heading home to Owlsmoor.....
The lights "appear to be only on green for about 10 seconds in favour of M3 J4 - Bracknell traffic, this is obviously the cause, anyone know whether it's a fault or "experimental" phasing?
GT03ROB said:
thatone1967 said:
It was never the best of road junctions, but the last week has been bloody awful...
It's taking around 20 - 30 minutes to get from the M3 J4 past the Meadows when heading home to Owlsmoor.....
The lights "appear to be only on green for about 10 seconds in favour of M3 J4 - Bracknell traffic, this is obviously the cause, anyone know whether it's a fault or "experimental" phasing?
Dunnoe, but it's 2 mins from my office, really noticed it's been piled up going from the M3 to it evey morning for the last week & quite bad most evenings. I come from the Bracknell side in the morning & I've not noticed any difference to be honest. However this morning came in from the M3 & there was no snarl up around 8am going doen to it. Just looked out the window & it's free flowing now too, so maybe it's changed back.It's taking around 20 - 30 minutes to get from the M3 J4 past the Meadows when heading home to Owlsmoor.....
The lights "appear to be only on green for about 10 seconds in favour of M3 J4 - Bracknell traffic, this is obviously the cause, anyone know whether it's a fault or "experimental" phasing?
p.s. nice porker, will look out for you.. cannot be that many Guards red Porsches in Camberley...
thatone1967 said:
GT03ROB said:
thatone1967 said:
It was never the best of road junctions, but the last week has been bloody awful...
It's taking around 20 - 30 minutes to get from the M3 J4 past the Meadows when heading home to Owlsmoor.....
The lights "appear to be only on green for about 10 seconds in favour of M3 J4 - Bracknell traffic, this is obviously the cause, anyone know whether it's a fault or "experimental" phasing?
Dunnoe, but it's 2 mins from my office, really noticed it's been piled up going from the M3 to it evey morning for the last week & quite bad most evenings. I come from the Bracknell side in the morning & I've not noticed any difference to be honest. However this morning came in from the M3 & there was no snarl up around 8am going doen to it. Just looked out the window & it's free flowing now too, so maybe it's changed back.It's taking around 20 - 30 minutes to get from the M3 J4 past the Meadows when heading home to Owlsmoor.....
The lights "appear to be only on green for about 10 seconds in favour of M3 J4 - Bracknell traffic, this is obviously the cause, anyone know whether it's a fault or "experimental" phasing?
p.s. nice porker, will look out for you.. cannot be that many Guards red Porsches in Camberley...
just received this email:
Some vehicle detector loops have been damaged by recent roadworks and carriageway damage.
This causes them to default to a permanent demand - hence the delays on opposing phases.
There are many similar faults across the county, caused by the recent inclement weather
damaging the road and underground cables. We are working through the repairs as fast
as our limited contractual and financial resources permit.
Regards
Grahame Bath
Senior Engineer
Please reply to generic email address, not individuals,
as this may delay appropriate and timely responses.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Network Management & Information Team
Transport for Surrey - Surrey County Council
Anyone know what this means? (just idle curiosity)
Some vehicle detector loops have been damaged by recent roadworks and carriageway damage.
This causes them to default to a permanent demand - hence the delays on opposing phases.
There are many similar faults across the county, caused by the recent inclement weather
damaging the road and underground cables. We are working through the repairs as fast
as our limited contractual and financial resources permit.
Regards
Grahame Bath
Senior Engineer
Please reply to generic email address, not individuals,
as this may delay appropriate and timely responses.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Network Management & Information Team
Transport for Surrey - Surrey County Council
Anyone know what this means? (just idle curiosity)
Edited by thatone1967 on Tuesday 2nd March 10:29
Yes the lights are f
ked
When there was a power out a while back the system was off for a day or so.
No traffic hold up as it became a roundabout.
If the lights are up the swanny, turn them off.
Then get out there and fix the loops - lazy bunch of tossers just like the poor pot hole
repairs being done in the area
kedWhen there was a power out a while back the system was off for a day or so.
No traffic hold up as it became a roundabout.
If the lights are up the swanny, turn them off.
Then get out there and fix the loops - lazy bunch of tossers just like the poor pot hole
repairs being done in the area
SVTRick said:
Yes the lights are fked
When there was a power out a while back the system was off for a day or so.
No traffic hold up as it became a roundabout.
If the lights are up the swanny, turn them off.
Then get out there and fix the loops - lazy bunch of tossers just like the poor pot hole
repairs being done in the area
+1kedWhen there was a power out a while back the system was off for a day or so.
No traffic hold up as it became a roundabout.
If the lights are up the swanny, turn them off.
Then get out there and fix the loops - lazy bunch of tossers just like the poor pot hole
repairs being done in the area
I too was wondering why the chaos last Friday night when coming home at about 7:30pm and the traffic was tailed back to Sainbury's. The weekend was no better.
Glad to hear that SCC is aware of the problem, I was going to investigate who to contact about it. In the meantime, I will be coming off at J3, up to Nine Mile Ride and approaching Sandhurst from that direction until it's fixed.
Glad to hear that SCC is aware of the problem, I was going to investigate who to contact about it. In the meantime, I will be coming off at J3, up to Nine Mile Ride and approaching Sandhurst from that direction until it's fixed.
Planet Claire said:
I too was wondering why the chaos last Friday night when coming home at about 7:30pm and the traffic was tailed back to Sainbury's. The weekend was no better.
Glad to hear that SCC is aware of the problem, I was going to investigate who to contact about it. In the meantime, I will be coming off at J3, up to Nine Mile Ride and approaching Sandhurst from that direction until it's fixed.
Good choice, I assume you are coming out of London... I go the opposite way, off at J4a and up the Minley Road....Glad to hear that SCC is aware of the problem, I was going to investigate who to contact about it. In the meantime, I will be coming off at J3, up to Nine Mile Ride and approaching Sandhurst from that direction until it's fixed.
further upadate, hot off the press:
We originally were advised (as Grahame described) that there were faulty vehicle detectors which would need recutting in the carriageway surface, involving extensive Traffic Management and Nightworking. We were programming the repairs with our signal maintenance contractors when it became apparent that there was another issue at the adjacent junction, Blackwater Valley Road / Stanhope Road. The Stanhope Road junction has a comms fault which means that the linking with the detection for the Meadows roundabout has failed. It therefore in effect gives "false readings" of traffic flows approaching the roundabout. We have had to involve a specialist engineer from a different signal company to try to resolve this issue and we are hopeful that we may not need to recut any of the detectors in the carriageway.
This specialist work is being carried out today, so I do not yet know if the work has been successful or not; as it can be quite complex. If it succeeds the signal operation for both junctions should be much improved. If it does not succeed please be assured that we will persevere until the fault is resolved.
I trust that this is helpful and in the meantime please accept my apologies for the inconvenience caused.
We originally were advised (as Grahame described) that there were faulty vehicle detectors which would need recutting in the carriageway surface, involving extensive Traffic Management and Nightworking. We were programming the repairs with our signal maintenance contractors when it became apparent that there was another issue at the adjacent junction, Blackwater Valley Road / Stanhope Road. The Stanhope Road junction has a comms fault which means that the linking with the detection for the Meadows roundabout has failed. It therefore in effect gives "false readings" of traffic flows approaching the roundabout. We have had to involve a specialist engineer from a different signal company to try to resolve this issue and we are hopeful that we may not need to recut any of the detectors in the carriageway.
This specialist work is being carried out today, so I do not yet know if the work has been successful or not; as it can be quite complex. If it succeeds the signal operation for both junctions should be much improved. If it does not succeed please be assured that we will persevere until the fault is resolved.
I trust that this is helpful and in the meantime please accept my apologies for the inconvenience caused.
Although this will be teaching the locals how to suck eggs there are two ways to avoid the worst of it.
If you know the BVR/Meadows is bad, this route.
http://www.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&am...
and if you discover that it's jammed after getting on to it.
http://www.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&am...
Luckily i no longer live next to the Meadows
, unfortunately i live on the A30 next the the A322 so it can be just as bad. 
If you know the BVR/Meadows is bad, this route.
http://www.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&am...
and if you discover that it's jammed after getting on to it.
http://www.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&am...
Luckily i no longer live next to the Meadows
, unfortunately i live on the A30 next the the A322 so it can be just as bad. thatone1967 said:
SVTRick said:
Yes the lights are fked
When there was a power out a while back the system was off for a day or so.
No traffic hold up as it became a roundabout.
If the lights are up the swanny, turn them off.
Then get out there and fix the loops - lazy bunch of tossers just like the poor pot hole
repairs being done in the area
+1kedWhen there was a power out a while back the system was off for a day or so.
No traffic hold up as it became a roundabout.
If the lights are up the swanny, turn them off.
Then get out there and fix the loops - lazy bunch of tossers just like the poor pot hole
repairs being done in the area
+1omgus said:
Although this will be teaching the locals how to suck eggs there are two ways to avoid the worst of it.
If you know the BVR/Meadows is bad, this route.
http://www.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&am...
and if you discover that it's jammed after getting on to it.
http://www.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&am...
Luckily i no longer live next to the Meadows, unfortunately i live on the A30 next the the A322 so it can be just as bad.
When the traffic's bad, those two shortcuts aren't really any faster. The Meadows is hell close to Christmas!If you know the BVR/Meadows is bad, this route.
http://www.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&am...
and if you discover that it's jammed after getting on to it.
http://www.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&source=s_d&am...
Luckily i no longer live next to the Meadows
, unfortunately i live on the A30 next the the A322 so it can be just as bad. Coming from Sandhurst towards Watchmoor Park is ok, it's coming off the M3 (which was a mare this morning) heading towards the Meadows that was just silly o'clock this morning about 7.40 - no real reason for the hold up, not a large volume of traffic, except the lights are backing up everyone - you get off the M3 as it is a car park and the next road you get on to is also a car park - bloody useless, all of them.
Make it back into a roundabout, save a lot of hassle
Make it back into a roundabout, save a lot of hassle
hurstg01 said:
Coming from Sandhurst towards Watchmoor Park is ok, it's coming off the M3 (which was a mare this morning) heading towards the Meadows that was just silly o'clock this morning about 7.40 - no real reason for the hold up, not a large volume of traffic, except the lights are backing up everyone - you get off the M3 as it is a car park and the next road you get on to is also a car park - bloody useless, all of them.
Make it back into a roundabout, save a lot of hassle
The reason for the hold up is the 10 second window that it allows the traffic from the M3.Make it back into a roundabout, save a lot of hassle
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