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Cas_P

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Saturday 7th August 2010
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Does anyone know of an acre of land/have an acre of land they would be willing to rent out in the Reading/within 12 miles of area? It would need good grass and to be fenced off. It would be for a foal. Cheers.

Edited by Cas_P on Saturday 7th August 21:27

kiwifraser

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223 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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Cas_P said:
Does anyone know of an acre of land/have an acre of land they would be willing to rent out in the Reading/within 12 miles of area? It would need good grass and to be fenced off. It would be for a foal. Cheers.

Edited by Cas_P on Saturday 7th August 21:27
Cas - what's going on here! Decent transport doesn't eat grass hehe

greggie87

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Saturday 7th August 2010
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Ive got a few acres but guildford is probably too far for you!

Cas_P

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Sunday 8th August 2010
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greggie87 said:
Ive got a few acres but guildford is probably too far for you!
It is a little bit far, I used to go climbing at craggy, can't remember how long it took to get there though. How much would you want? I'd only need about an acre, think I'd die poo picking 3 acres on a cold morning lol! tongue out Does it have any accessible shelter?

EFA: By shelter I'd also class tree's any sort of shaded area.

Edited by Cas_P on Sunday 8th August 09:12

kiwifraser

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Sunday 8th August 2010
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Cas_P said:
Horses are decent transport
Are you forgetting this is primarily a car forum hehe

wackojacko

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Sunday 8th August 2010
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1 horsepower hehe actually I feal really sad that I know this but the average of 20 horses when tested was 13.2 bhp, one even managed 15 bhp .......Vixpy !!!!

getmecoat

I don't have the foggiest how they managed to get a horse on the rollers scratchchin

Edited by wackojacko on Sunday 8th August 14:49

Cas_P

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Sunday 8th August 2010
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Haha that's pretty cool, 15bhp not bad for a horse!

No one else with unused land on here? Maybe I should use my garden, it'd cut the grass for me hehe on that note it's also like a free lawn mowing service wink

kVA

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234 months

Thursday 19th August 2010
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Got plenty here, but a lot further than 12 miles ...

Stephanie Plum

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Thursday 19th August 2010
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Are you going to keep it on its own? Not very fair for it as they are such social animals. Wouldn't it be better to find someone with other youngstock that it can run with?

Cas_P

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Thursday 19th August 2010
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Stephanie Plum said:
Are you going to keep it on its own? Not very fair for it as they are such social animals. Wouldn't it be better to find someone with other youngstock that it can run with?
Horses are absolutely fine alone if cared for properly and interacted with enough. It's not 'unfair' whatsoever, Unfair is people who get a horse, turn it out and Forget about it. You'll find
many places offer individual turnout. The colt would have daily interaction and be well looked after. However I will probably have a broken in horse also that I can ride in the meantime.

Edited by Cas_P on Thursday 19th August 23:11


Edited by Cas_P on Thursday 19th August 23:15

kVA

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Thursday 19th August 2010
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Cas_P said:
Stephanie Plum said:
Are you going to keep it on its own? Not very fair for it as they are such social animals. Wouldn't it be better to find someone with other youngstock that it can run with?
Horses are absolutely fine alone, its
not 'unfair' whatsoever. You'll find many places offer individual turnout. The colt would have daily interaction and be well looked after. However I will probably have a broken in horse also that I can ride in the meantime.

Edited by Cas_P on Thursday 19th August 23:11
Hmmm... Have to disagree with you there: Horses form very strong pair-bonds and rarely survive alone in the wild. They are very much herd animals and, IMO, should never be isolated from other equines. Many places do offer individual turnout, but only because that's what their owners think they need - to protect them from getting kicked, so that they are always available to ride...

If we all did what was best for the horses, stable builders would all be looking for a new career!

Cas_P

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Thursday 19th August 2010
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kVA said:
Cas_P said:
Stephanie Plum said:
Are you going to keep it on its own? Not very fair for it as they are such social animals. Wouldn't it be better to find someone with other youngstock that it can run with?
Horses are absolutely fine alone, its
not 'unfair' whatsoever. You'll find many places offer individual turnout. The colt would have daily interaction and be well looked after. However I will probably have a broken in horse also that I can ride in the meantime.

Edited by Cas_P on Thursday 19th August 23:11
Hmmm... Have to disagree with you there: Horses form very strong pair-bonds and rarely survive alone in the wild. They are very much herd
animals and, IMO, should never be
isolated from other equines. Many
places do offer individual turnout, but
only because that's what their owners
think they need - to protect them from
getting kicked, so that they are
always available to ride..

If we all did what was best for the
horses, stable builders would all be
looking for a new career!
So it makes it unfair? I know the history of horses. I've learnt a lot from my mom. All I didn't agree with in the post was that it was unfair. He'd be extremely well looked after and interacted with. Turnout without a high level of interaction would be un fair yes but with how I'd be it wouldn't. However this doesn't matter because as I said I'd have a riding horse he'd be turned out with.

kVA

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Friday 20th August 2010
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Cas_P said:
So it makes it unfair? I know the history of horses. I've learnt a lot from my mom. All I didn't agree with in the post was that it was unfair. He'd be extremely well looked after and interacted with. Turnout without a high level of interaction would be un fair yes but with how I'd be it wouldn't. However this doesn't matter because as I said I'd have a riding horse he'd be turned out with.
I think you're going to need quite a bit more than an acre then... wink

Cas_P

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Friday 20th August 2010
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Originally it would be 1 acre for one foal when I put the thread up it was only recently that I decided I'd want a riding horse too however I'm happy with the horse I ride currently on part loan. So, poppet, here's an idea I know what I'm doing and I know that any horse I have will be treated very
well.though if I had just the one as originally wanted I'd need 2 for rotation. When I sort it all out you can
bring your obvious expertise and see
for yourself, ok wink

Edited by Cas_P on Friday 20th August 10:02

kVA

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Friday 20th August 2010
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Cas_P said:
Originally it would be 1 acre for one foal when I put the thread up it was only recently that I decided I'd want a riding horse too however I'm happy with the horse I ride currently on part loan. So, poppet, here's an idea I know what I'm doing and I know that any horse I have will be treated very
well.though if I had just the one as originally wanted I'd need 2 for rotation. When I sort it all out you can
bring your obvious expertise and see
for yourself, ok wink

Edited by Cas_P on Friday 20th August 10:02
There are some blokes that know about horses AND cars, you know... wink

Had you been nearer, I was going to offer you some grazing with a field shelter to keep one of my horses company (I have an odd number and like to try and maintain 'pairs'), but I've changed my mind now anyway...

I do hope that you will think very carefully about what you are doing, though - a foal should never grow up away from other horses, and if it isn't their own Mum, as many as possible if you ever want to be able to take it to show: Horses need socialising as well as children and dogs!

Cas_P

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Friday 20th August 2010
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kVA said:
Cas_P said:
Originally it would be 1 acre for one foal when I put the thread up it was only recently that I decided I'd want a riding horse too however I'm happy with the horse I ride currently on part loan. So, poppet, here's an idea I know what I'm doing and I know that any horse I
have will be treated very
well.though if I had just the one as originally wanted I'd need 2 for rotation. When I sort it all out you can
bring your obvious expertise and see
for yourself, ok wink

[footnote]Edited by Cas_P on Friday
20th August 10:02[/footnote]
There are some blokes that know about horses AND cars, you know... wink

Had you been nearer, I was going to offer you some grazing with a field
shelter to keep one of my horses
company (I have an odd number and
like to try and maintain 'pairs'), but
I've changed my mind now anyway...

I do hope that you will think very carefully about what you are doing,
though - a foal should never grow up
away from other horses, and if it isn't
their own Mum, as many as possible
if you ever want to be able to take it to
show: Horses need socialising as
well as children and dogs!
Again, I know my stuff. So don't worry your little self, ok wink I also know a LOT of men who know a LOT about horses, never once did I insinuate they didn't. You could be male/female/alien, hell, a bloody hippo, my response would be the
same smile

Edited by Cas_P on Friday 20th August 12:10

kVA

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Friday 20th August 2010
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Bloody hell - I know what they mean by the 'mental' on here now! yikes

Considering that you were the one asking a huge favour in the first place - nice attitude rolleyes

Cas_P

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Friday 20th August 2010
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kVA said:
Bloody hell - I know what they mean by the 'mental' on here now! yikes

Considering that you were the one asking a huge favour in the first place - nice attitude rolleyes
Not really an attitude just a response to your post, which was also had a sense of rudeness in it. And I wasn't asking for a favour I'd be paying for it. So in a way someone would get paid
for letting me use something they don't use smile.

Regarding 'mental'... Hmm hardly. Now will that be the end of it or are you going to carry on being rude and obnoxious. I assume the latter, please prove me wrong as I find this all very tedious.

kVA

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Saturday 21st August 2010
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Cas, it actually wasn't me that said it was 'unfair'...

However, I love animals (much more than most people actually) and I would say exactly the same thing to my best friend...It's not personal and I don't mean to be rude: I just don't agree with keeping horses in a small paddock (or stables) for the owner's convenience... I know you were only joking about poo-picking 3 acres on a cold morning, but IMO people who aren't prepared to put in the extra work / money required to give a horse the best possible life in captivity, shouldn't have one.

You may disagree, but I think horses should always be kept in pairs and the first pair should have a minimum of four acres to live on, ideally with some variety in the terrain, with at least another acre for every additional horse: OK, so they can survive on less, and it is a lot cheaper and more convenient for the owner to have less, but I'm not so sure they will have a happy life that way?

Cas_P

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Saturday 21st August 2010
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kVA said:
Cas, it actually wasn't me that said it was 'unfair'...

However, I love animals (much more than most people actually) and I would say exactly the same thing to my best friend...It's not personal and I don't mean to be rude: I just don't agree with keeping horses in a small paddock (or stables) for the owner's convenience... I know you were only joking about poo-picking 3 acres on a cold morning, but IMO people who aren't prepared to put in the extra work / money required to give a horse the best possible life in captivity, shouldn't have one.

You may disagree, but I think horses should always be kept in pairs and the first pair should have a minimum of four acres to live on, ideally with some variety in the terrain, with at least another acre for every additional horse: OK, so they can survive on less, and it is a lot cheaper and more convenient for the owner to have less, but I'm not so sure they will have a happy life that way?
An acre for a foal is more than adequate as long as you have another for rotation to keep the grass fresh etc (I didn't put that in my original post as I didn't think of rotation it until after and by then it was clear no one near had any land anyway so I didn't edit it). I can promise you that any horse/s I keep will have the best care I can give. On top of that I have amazing guidance from my mom whose life used to literally revolve around her horses, hell she used to jump on bareback and canter over the field to school when she was a kid and is a BHSAI, even wrote a series of course books teaching people everything they needed to know to do the BHS tests, lived for her showjumping also so for one, she'd give me a hell of a bking if she didn't think the horses were 100% happy and looked after hehe I know horses can be happy along as long as they are well looked after as I've seen on many occasions however, in hindsight I will be getting a riding horse also so he will have a friend. Anyway, it seems hard to find land in this area at the moment and one guy I asked wanted £35 p/w for turnout only for 2 acres with no shelter which was ridiculous so I'm going to hold fire for a bit. I've got a part loan that I'm quite happy with in Ascot/Windsor and I'm helping out with a lovely shire and a little shetty in Pangbourne so as you can tell, I love them too, even if Smudge was a bit of a cow this morning and didn't want to be ridden because she wanted to be out in her field, she was ace after though! biggrin

How many do you have? do you do competitions etc? smile




Edited by Cas_P on Saturday 21st August 12:57