Odd new plod strategy on the A3 this evening
Odd new plod strategy on the A3 this evening
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Kermit power

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29,622 posts

242 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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Coming up the A3 this evening, I ended up behind a marked police car from Guildford all the way up to the M25 who had chosen, for whatever reason, to sit in the outside lane at 68mph.

Didn't matter whether there were cars in the inner lanes or not. There he sat, outside lane the whole way, making sure that nobody could legally pass him.

Anyone have any thoughts as to why? confused

Furry Exocet

3,011 posts

210 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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No idea. What vehicle was it?

dcb

6,061 posts

294 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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Kermit power said:
Anyone have any thoughts as to why? confused
No idea about lane discipline ?

The coppers have always been "do as I say"
rather than "do as I do".

I stopped counting driving mistakes by coppers
years ago.




Kermit power

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29,622 posts

242 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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Furry Exocet said:
No idea. What vehicle was it?
Something dull. A Mondeo estate, iirc.

sinizter

3,348 posts

215 months

Tuesday 14th December 2010
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If you had sufficient space ahead of you in whatever lane you were in, you could presumably do the speed limit, which would shortly place you ahead of the fuzz ? All legally.

Furry Exocet

3,011 posts

210 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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Kermit power said:
Furry Exocet said:
No idea. What vehicle was it?
Something dull. A Mondeo estate, iirc.
The dog was probably driving then smile

Or they were looking for something

Edited by Furry Exocet on Wednesday 15th December 01:19

SVTRick

3,633 posts

224 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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Long Term Cruse control testing....
While eating Doughnuts ;-)

Kermit power

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29,622 posts

242 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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sinizter said:
If you had sufficient space ahead of you in whatever lane you were in, you could presumably do the speed limit, which would shortly place you ahead of the fuzz ? All legally.
In theory maybe, but given that we were in freely flowing traffic, would you really want to risk the wrath of a copper having a bad day by passing him on the inside, even if it's not strictly speaking illegal?

sinizter

3,348 posts

215 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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Kermit power said:
sinizter said:
If you had sufficient space ahead of you in whatever lane you were in, you could presumably do the speed limit, which would shortly place you ahead of the fuzz ? All legally.
In theory maybe, but given that we were in freely flowing traffic, would you really want to risk the wrath of a copper having a bad day by passing him on the inside, even if it's not strictly speaking illegal?
I probably would have passed him sloooowly on the inside, depending on whether I wanted to be somewhere or didn't really care. If I wasn't too bothered, I would probably just have got a coffee (or whatever passes for it) from the next services.

But it is very annoying when you are stuck behind someone, under the speed limit - and in this cases, feel that there is nothing you could do.

Edited by sinizter on Wednesday 15th December 09:09

Frimley111R

19,156 posts

263 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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Had one on the M3 a few months ago. He would sit in lane 1 or 2 and any time someone would go past in lane 3 he'd pull straight out behind them and intimidate them back in. Complete tw.....

john_r

8,354 posts

300 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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I had this on the M40 a few weeks ago - late at night and a fully marked van sat in the middle lane doing 68-70. Lots of jostling cars behind him and everytime someone finally decided to creep past he put on the blues and pulled in front of them; at which point he'd turn off the lights and slow down to 68 again!

I also had a marked Volvo estate on the M25 in Surrey doing practically the same thing early one morning recently. Although he didn't use the lights, he had a little LED notice board that popped up in the back window as you approached and scrolled Speed Limit = 70mph. My GPS was indicating he was doing 65mph in the middle lane...

I guess just like in every job, there's a few tts about that bring down all of their colleagues.

(and as for the van; after about 30 frustrating minutes he found out how loud a modified RS6 is at full chat... interestingly he didn't do anything and everyone else then started going past from what I could see in the mirror!)

John D.

20,933 posts

238 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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john_r said:
(and as for the van; after about 30 frustrating minutes he found out how loud a modified RS6 is at full chat... interestingly he didn't do anything and everyone else then started going past from what I could see in the mirror!)
hehethumbup

Nice one JR.

I had similar on the M1 recently. Twist was that the patrol car was obeying the 60 limit displayed on the gantrys (you know the ones that everyone usually ignores) . So we had quiet 4 lane motorway with everyone bombing up the outside lane until they spotted plod then anchoring up and falling in line.

This went on for 5 miles until plod peeled off then normal service was resumed. The hazard that necessitated a 60 limit never materialised surprise surprise.

I didn't have the guts to just burn them up!

xllifts

3,724 posts

232 months

Friday 17th December 2010
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john_r said:
I had this on the M40 a few weeks ago - late at night and a fully marked van sat in the middle lane doing 68-70. Lots of jostling cars behind him and everytime someone finally decided to creep past he put on the blues and pulled in front of them; at which point he'd turn off the lights and slow down to 68 again!
In which case he is breaking the law he can only do 60mph in a van!

I found out the hard way, I got done for it a few months back, was on motorway and they clocked me at 74mph, gave me 3 points and £60 fine for my trouble.

Wouldn't have minded too much but I was going slower than most people on that stretch of road at the time.

I am now starting to believe that there is a fraction that are out to get their numbers up at whatever the cost, vans being an easy target.

Before anyone starts I know us large vehicle drivers have a bad reputation but some of us aren't that bad!

Dave 500

7,882 posts

271 months

Friday 17th December 2010
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xllifts said:
john_r said:
I had this on the M40 a few weeks ago - late at night and a fully marked van sat in the middle lane doing 68-70. Lots of jostling cars behind him and everytime someone finally decided to creep past he put on the blues and pulled in front of them; at which point he'd turn off the lights and slow down to 68 again!
In which case he is breaking the law he can only do 60mph in a van!

I found out the hard way, I got done for it a few months back, was on motorway and they clocked me at 74mph, gave me 3 points and £60 fine for my trouble.

Wouldn't have minded too much but I was going slower than most people on that stretch of road at the time.

I am now starting to believe that there is a fraction that are out to get their numbers up at whatever the cost, vans being an easy target.

Before anyone starts I know us large vehicle drivers have a bad reputation but some of us aren't that bad!
Blimey what van do you have that can only do 60 on the motorway is it over 7.5t we use Transit T350 type vans which can all do 70.


Landshark

2,117 posts

210 months

Friday 17th December 2010
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xllifts said:
john_r said:
I had this on the M40 a few weeks ago - late at night and a fully marked van sat in the middle lane doing 68-70. Lots of jostling cars behind him and everytime someone finally decided to creep past he put on the blues and pulled in front of them; at which point he'd turn off the lights and slow down to 68 again!
In which case he is breaking the law he can only do 60mph in a van!

I found out the hard way, I got done for it a few months back, was on motorway and they clocked me at 74mph, gave me 3 points and £60 fine for my trouble.

Wouldn't have minded too much but I was going slower than most people on that stretch of road at the time.

I am now starting to believe that there is a fraction that are out to get their numbers up at whatever the cost, vans being an easy target.

Before anyone starts I know us large vehicle drivers have a bad reputation but some of us aren't that bad!
The 60mph limit for vans is only on dual carriageways (except car derived vans under 2t), hence the A3 although three lanes is still a dual carriageway - this catches many people out.teacher

A van on the motorway can do 70 mph. (74 mph in a van on the motorway is very harsh!!!)boxedin

motorbreath

613 posts

211 months

Friday 17th December 2010
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Saw an undercover car on the M275 last month sitting in the out side lane doing roughly 65ish with a 350z, slk and 530 following closly behind.

350z got pissed off, under took and got pulled stright away. Bad policing if you ask me!


Also a week or so later, the same thing on the M25, undercover passat. Pulled another passat.

Then when we turned off downt the A3 head cauht up and was in front sitting at the light with an old 318 next to him. Police floored it, so 318 followed siute, 1 mile down the road, he'd been pulled.

I have to say its a poor way to do policing, near on entrapment by my books!

Furry Exocet

3,011 posts

210 months

Friday 17th December 2010
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motorbreath said:
Saw an undercover car on the M275 last month sitting in the out side lane doing roughly 65ish with a 350z, slk and 530 following closly behind.

350z got pissed off, under took and got pulled stright away. Bad policing if you ask me!


Also a week or so later, the same thing on the M25, undercover passat. Pulled anotheir passat.

Then when we turned off downt the A3 head cauht up and was in front sitting at the light with an old 318 next to him. Police floored it, so 318 followed siute, 1 mile down the road, he'd been pulled.

I have to say its a poor way to do policing, near on entrapment by my books!
I very much doubt the passat did anyone for speeding

shimmey69

1,525 posts

207 months

Saturday 18th December 2010
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Furry Exocet said:
motorbreath said:
Saw an undercover car on the M275 last month sitting in the out side lane doing roughly 65ish with a 350z, slk and 530 following closly behind.

350z got pissed off, under took and got pulled stright away. Bad policing if you ask me!


Also a week or so later, the same thing on the M25, undercover passat. Pulled anotheir passat.

Then when we turned off downt the A3 head cauht up and was in front sitting at the light with an old 318 next to him. Police floored it, so 318 followed siute, 1 mile down the road, he'd been pulled.

I have to say its a poor way to do policing, near on entrapment by my books!
I very much doubt the passat did anyone for speeding
what does the passat do then???

Landshark

2,117 posts

210 months

Saturday 18th December 2010
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shimmey69 said:
Furry Exocet said:
motorbreath said:
stuff!
I very much doubt the passat did anyone for speeding
what does the passat do then???
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=127&t=489440&mid=158302&i=760&nmt=unmarked%20police%20cars&mid=158302

This may help!!! ;-)

Landshark

2,117 posts

210 months

Saturday 18th December 2010
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......or maybe not as the iPhone doesn't seem to want to do the link!!

Suggested Reading of the unmarked car thread circa page 38/39 should answer the question......