Strange noise after all the heavy rain - help!!
Strange noise after all the heavy rain - help!!
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valiant1

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13,308 posts

183 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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I have a Ford Focus 1.6 petrol (2008) that's been running fine since I bought it a few years ago. Got caught in the heavy rain earlier today when returning home but noticed nothing untoward. Then when I left to do the schoolrun two hours later A high pitched whine developed which gets increasingly louder the more I accelerate.

The whine is now present when the car is idling (albeit a lot quieter).

It seems to be coming from the left hand side of the engine where the belts/alternator are located so I'm thinking belts,idler pullies,etc.

Anybody with experience confirm this or suggest something else?



MODS, please leave this here and not move it to the Ford section as tumbleweed has been known to blow through there. Ta!

DanielC4GP

2,792 posts

174 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Sounds like a belt slipping

crankedup

25,764 posts

266 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Sounds as though it a belt slipping, when was it last changed?

E30M3SE

8,485 posts

219 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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^^^yes

valiant1

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183 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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crankedup said:
Sounds as though it a belt slipping, when was it last changed?
Cheers for the quick reply.

The belt has never been changed as the Focus has a 10 year/100000mile change interval on them (not that I was going to wait THAT long to change).

Car has done approx 53k miles.

P I Staker

3,308 posts

179 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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I very much doubt its the timing belt slipping, if it is you have a lot more to worry about then just a noise. hehe

Will be an auxiliary belt, generally easy to change.

motco

17,368 posts

269 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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A belt slipping is more like a screech than a whine - more or less fixed pitch but varying in volume. It might be a bearing in either the alternator or power steering pump if the whine is directly related to engine revs. Belt slippage usually is worse when first started due to alternator load replenishing the starter current for the first few miles.

visual123

150 posts

188 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Could be a tensioner?

Teddye4687

377 posts

171 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Yep, sounds like a belt slipping (or possibly the alternator)

Same happened with my 106, which was a simple & cheap fix.

valiant1

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13,308 posts

183 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Teddye4687 said:
Yep, sounds like a belt slipping (or possibly the alternator)

Same happened with my 106, which was a simple & cheap fix.
Cheers guys. My mind always goes for the worst case scenario and I've been having visions of engine rebuilds and thousands spent!!

Quick followw up question. Would it be Ok to drive (only short distances, no cross-country jaunts)? My normal garage can't fit me in for two weeks.

Teddye4687

377 posts

171 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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valiant1 said:
Teddye4687 said:
Yep, sounds like a belt slipping (or possibly the alternator)

Same happened with my 106, which was a simple & cheap fix.
Cheers guys. My mind always goes for the worst case scenario and I've been having visions of engine rebuilds and thousands spent!!

Quick followw up question. Would it be Ok to drive (only short distances, no cross-country jaunts)? My normal garage can't fit me in for two weeks.
I'd rather not give advice without actually getting my head in the engine bay, it could be something more serious, but I'd eliminate the most common problems first.

If it's a squeal type noise, and lasts for a moderate duration (we're talking a few seconds+), then it's unlikely to be your cambelt, as if it were, you'd probably know about it by now!

Is it intermittent? P.S. if you do drive it and you're happy that it's the alternator, as a pre-cautionary, carry jump leads or park on a hill

P.P.S - Have a look on youtube for 'Ford focus slipping alternator' etc, see if any of the noises seem similar. For example, this mentions a timing belt

Edited by Teddye4687 on Tuesday 3rd January 16:47

valiant1

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13,308 posts

183 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Thinking about it I doubt very much that it is the cambelt as I would have lunched the engine by now and using the power of Google it seems to match up with what I'm hearing.

The rain around here was mental so I'm thinking rather too much water got into the engine bay and onto the aux belts. Hopefully they'll dry out a bit and reduce the noise until they can be replaced.

Trustmeimadoctor

14,298 posts

178 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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how long should an aux belt last really ? the micra has started slipping agin but im sure it was only done about 18 months ago

P I Staker

3,308 posts

179 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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valiant1 said:
Thinking about it I doubt very much that it is the cambelt as I would have lunched the engine by now and using the power of Google it seems to match up with what I'm hearing.

The rain around here was mental so I'm thinking rather too much water got into the engine bay and onto the aux belts. Hopefully they'll dry out a bit and reduce the noise until they can be replaced.
Usually if its water it gets dried out pretty quick and the belts will stop slipping.

If they continue to slip it may wear the pulleys which means that the replacement belt will also slip. So get them done soon as.

V40TC

2,325 posts

207 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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valiant1 said:
Thinking about it I doubt very much that it is the cambelt as I would have lunched the engine by now and using the power of Google it seems to match up with what I'm hearing.

The rain around here was mental so I'm thinking rather too much water got into the engine bay and onto the aux belts. Hopefully they'll dry out a bit and reduce the noise until they can be replaced.
The Cambelt is toothed and will not be the cause
yours is water on the belt/pulley or a loose/worn power steering/alternator normal service likely to resume once dry

*Al*

3,830 posts

245 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Without being a doom monger i'd say it is just your auxillary belt, get it changed anyway and go from there.If the noise stops then fine, i had belt noise on my Dodge Ram which almost sounded like a collapsed bearing it was so bad so i changed the belt and all was quiet again.

Teddye4687

377 posts

171 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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*Al* said:
Without being a doom monger i'd say it is just your auxillary belt, get it changed anyway and go from there.If the noise stops then fine, i had belt noise on my Dodge Ram which almost sounded like a collapsed bearing it was so bad so i changed the belt and all was quiet again.
For the sake of £12 or whatever, I'd go with this and equip yourself with a haynes smile

XDA

2,153 posts

208 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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I'd also suggest auxiliary belt. I had a 2003 focus that would make a quiet squealing/whining noise, but only when it was/had recently been raining. Belt tightened and noise disappeared.

morgrp

4,128 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Spray the auxiliary drive belt with wd40 to displace the moisture with the engine running (watch your eyes)- a quick spray always shuts them up - if it's screeching loudly then the belt needs tightening or maybe replacing

Stoatman

592 posts

190 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Yep , with the engine running have a brief squirt of wd40 or belt dressing on each aux belts to see if the noise goes away. Although by tomorrow the belt will prob have dried and be back to normal.