Getting a Ford Ka as a first car, have a few questions.
Getting a Ford Ka as a first car, have a few questions.
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gibsonc

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186 months

Friday 5th April 2013
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Hi,

I will be getting a Ford Ka as my first car in a month or two. Obviously I am really excited however I have a few questions.

I will be getting the Studio version which I believe only comes with a single folding rear seat as opposed to a split folding seat on the better specked models. Do you think I will be able to get my mountain bike inside the car with the seats down? I was eyeing it up today and I'm not sure if will, any first hand experience would be appreciated! (obviously the wheels will have to come off!)

And finally is the bluetooth and usb option worth it? It would be the only option on the car but considering that it would most likely end up being a 8 week factory order, are the extra 7 weeks worth the integrated bluetooth and usb over a aftermarket parrot options?

Thanks
Chris


Yamatrix850

290 posts

164 months

Friday 5th April 2013
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Don't buy new would be my advice. They drop in value like a stone over the first few years.

gibsonc

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15 posts

186 months

Friday 5th April 2013
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Yamatrix850 said:
Don't buy new would be my advice. They drop in value like a stone over the first few years.
The car is being financed, there is no way I could persuade my dad to go for a used one.

Yamatrix850

290 posts

164 months

Friday 5th April 2013
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gibsonc said:
The car is being financed, there is no way I could persuade my dad to go for a used one.
That's even worse. Paying interest on a rapidly depreciating asset.

What happened to the concept of buying a cheap banger as a first car? - just look at what you can get for less than a grand these days! - you kids don't know you're born!

gibsonc

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15 posts

186 months

Friday 5th April 2013
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Yamatrix850 said:
Don't buy new would be my advice. They drop in value like a stone over the first few years.
The car is being financed, there is no way I could persuade my dad to go for a used one.

gibsonc

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186 months

Friday 5th April 2013
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Yamatrix850 said:
That's even worse. Paying interest on a rapidly depreciating asset.

What happened to the concept of buying a cheap banger as a first car? - just look at what you can get for less than a grand these days! - you kids don't know you're born!
I would rather not get into the argument of financing vs not financing but at 4.5% interest its roughly £450 interest over three years. Not bad at all. Plus to have a a car that will cost any money and is serviced is a real bonus. I know there is a great debate over the financing subject!

Yamatrix850

290 posts

164 months

Friday 5th April 2013
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Seriously - the Ford deal, as advertised, means it'll cost you over £4000 to borrow a poverty spec. Ka from Ford for 2 years.

gibsonc

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15 posts

186 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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Yamatrix850 said:
Seriously - the Ford deal, as advertised, means it'll cost you over £4000 to borrow a poverty spec. Ka from Ford for 2 years.
Not a bad deal for something fully serviced, trouble free, and if anything does go wrong its fixed by ford at no cost.
We all buy cars differently. This post wasn't meant to be an argument of how the car is bought but about the features of the car.

Turbofocus

435 posts

187 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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I reckon you are quite confused.
It will cost you interest plus depreciation.
Buying a new car is never the cheapest option.You could buy nearly new and be much better off and still have no hassle with servicing and repairs.

harveybobbles

154 posts

171 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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Turbofocus said:
I reckon you are quite confused.
It will cost you interest plus depreciation.
Buying a new car is never the cheapest option.You could buy nearly new and be much better off and still have no hassle with servicing and repairs.
If he wants to buy new, let him buy new! Clearly cost is not the major concern here as otherwise he'd be looking at a £500 shed.

There are good arguments for and against new cars, let alone financing. I bought my first car new in 2003 (albeit not with finance) and whilst I wouldn't do it again and nor would I recommend it for a first car, it didn't cause me any issues.




Turbofocus

435 posts

187 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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gibsonc said:
Not a bad deal for something fully serviced, trouble free, and if anything does go wrong its fixed by ford at no cost.
We all buy cars differently. This post wasn't meant to be an argument of how the car is bought but about the features of the car.
I don't know what price you are paying and what the finance is.

However if you think 2k a year to run a ka is not a bad deal then you need help.

Turbofocus

435 posts

187 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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harveybobbles said:
Turbofocus said:
I reckon you are quite confused.
It will cost you interest plus depreciation.
Buying a new car is never the cheapest option.You could buy nearly new and be much better off and still have no hassle with servicing and repairs.
If he wants to buy new, let him buy new!
I fully agree,it's his choice.
All I am saying is his ideas on costs are well out.

Yamatrix850

290 posts

164 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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The free servicing means very little, too - as on the contract mileage, it probably won't even reach the first service!

It's also worth noting that it's not fully maintained, so tyres and brakes will still need to be paid for.

blugnu

1,523 posts

271 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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I'd be amazed if you can't fit a bike in a Ka. Presumably the seats fold on yours, but all in one piece rather than in two bits?

I had an original one mind you.

(and to add my 2p, I have a Picasso with a full electric glass roof, climate control, cruise control and three back seats that you can fold, remove or replace with an official interior bike rack, and the whole thing - with 10 months MOT, cost me £1300)

blugnu

1,523 posts

271 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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Yamatrix850 said:
The free servicing means very little, too - as on the contract mileage, it probably won't even reach the first service!

It's also worth noting that it's not fully maintained, so tyres and brakes will still need to be paid for.
I bought a second-hand Ka in 2001. It had a full Ford service history. The rear pads disintegrated in the drum on about 30k miles. It was Christmas Eve so I took it to the local independent my dad recommended. He replaced the pads and told me that the drums had never previously been taken off so they had never been inspected any of the four times it had been 'serviced' by Ford.

gibsonc

Original Poster:

15 posts

186 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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I really hope this doesn't come across as brash but I feel I should comment on my situation.
Firstly I'm not paying for the car, my dad wants to give a helping hand in life and by buying a car he feels that is a massive help. He bought a new fox for my sister and so wants to do the same to me.
We both understand how financing a car works and in his view £4000 for three years motoring is a good deal, you may think otherwise.

This post was never meant to be about the car or finance. I didn't want to comment on the purchase of the car but I feel after recent comments I had to.

I would really appreciate if we could get back on topic now?


blugnu

1,523 posts

271 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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The dealer should be fairly accommodating if you take your bike in to check it fits - especially if you make it clear that it will be a deal-breaker if it doesn't.

Rythmic slapping

76 posts

179 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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Ive used a KA when my car was in for a service.

2 things to look out for; binding brakes and noise coming form the rear suspension - know 2 girls from work; both with these two problems. (the car.. not the girls..)

The KA is based on a Fiat 500 but ford has had ago at making it less bouncy - so now its quite firm.


Darren390

524 posts

237 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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In answer to one of your questions, I had a new Ka Zetec in September and had the Bluetooth option fitted. Not only is it Bluetooth, but you get a USB port and voice activation. I would certainly order it again, better still try and get it as part of the deal.

I've done nearly 3000 miles now, and have averaged 45mpg around town. Add in the low running costs, the Ka is a great little car. Bearing in mind my last 3 cars have been a Mustang GT, Mondeo ST220 and V6 X-Type, I am missing a little bit of power though!


gibsonc

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15 posts

186 months

Saturday 6th April 2013
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Darren390 said:
In answer to one of your questions, I had a new Ka Zetec in September and had the Bluetooth option fitted. Not only is it Bluetooth, but you get a USB port and voice activation. I would certainly order it again, better still try and get it as part of the deal.

I've done nearly 3000 miles now, and have averaged 45mpg around town. Add in the low running costs, the Ka is a great little car. Bearing in mind my last 3 cars have been a Mustang GT, Mondeo ST220 and V6 X-Type, I am missing a little bit of power though!
Haha thanks for the answer! I reckon its probably worth going for the bluetooth factory option, I just hope one is in stock!

A Ka is quite a change from a mustang! Amazingly the Ka is the most powerful out of all of the cars I was looking at although we are only talking about 10BHP!