dropping focus st3 engine into st24
dropping focus st3 engine into st24
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del1976uk

Original Poster:

1 posts

208 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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hi was just wondering if anyone has got any advice on dropping an st3 engine into my st24. bodyworks sound but engine is goosed. was wondering if anyone has any idea how much work is involved and apart from the engine gearbox and ecu what else would i need and does anyone know if this has been done before. any advice greatly appreciated cheers

mark_mcd

629 posts

226 months

Saturday 22nd November 2008
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You mean Focus ST3? If so surely would be cheaper to look at similar 5cylinder Volvo engines too unless yoy have the engine already? Too much work to be worthwhile I think.

rsstman

1,918 posts

210 months

Sunday 23rd November 2008
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ask someone like jamsport.

google them

ZZR

913 posts

274 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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probably easier to stick the 4pot in and turbo it....

Podie

46,647 posts

298 months

Monday 24th November 2008
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Drop the ST220 3.0 lump in - been done and works...

# Lord Lucan #

234 posts

214 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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easy to do but dont see any point tbh I would suggest go ST220 as this is the easiest option and definately will produce the goods easier than the ST engine

zippy144

161 posts

234 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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Hi

Anything can be done if you have deep enough pockets....

You would need a whole car to do it, as you would need all the wiring including ECU and Imbobiliser stuff etc.

I would look for a Volvo T5 engine with a 4WD gearbox myself....

Regards

Tom aka Zippy

Waynester

6,503 posts

273 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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[quote=# Lord Lucan #] go ST220 as this is the easiest option and definately will produce the goods easier than the ST engine
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How's that? ST220 is approx 220bhp/207 ft Ib's +/- isn't it, and the Focus ST is approx the same at 222bhp/236 ft Ib's +/- & both FWD. Mondeo is also slightly heavier, 1506kg V 1317kg.

The focus is turbocharged, and with a nominal outlay with re-maps etc can reach 260+bhp, maybe more.

Sorry, just curious as to how the Mondy 220 produces the goods easier than the Focus ST engine?

No axe to grind as an ex ST-3 owner, as i would quite like a 220. I was just curious as to how the Mondeo produces the good easier?

Quite happy to be corrected if i have missed the point? wink

_Lee_

7,520 posts

266 months

Tuesday 25th November 2008
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Waynester said:
[quote=# Lord Lucan #] go ST220 as this is the easiest option and definately will produce the goods easier than the ST engine
How's that? ST220 is approx 220bhp/207 ft Ib's +/- isn't it, and the Focus ST is approx the same at 222bhp/236 ft Ib's +/- & both FWD. Mondeo is also slightly heavier, 1506kg V 1317kg.

The focus is turbocharged, and with a nominal outlay with re-maps etc can reach 260+bhp, maybe more.

Sorry, just curious as to how the Mondy 220 produces the goods easier than the Focus ST engine?

No axe to grind as an ex ST-3 owner, as i would quite like a 220. I was just curious as to how the Mondeo produces the good easier?

Quite happy to be corrected if i have missed the point? wink
I would imagine the ST220 engine, is cheaper, easier to replace (no conversion) and easier to find in a scrap yard/recon.

Then add the fact that all of these costs have been drastically reduced and time saved the car can then be modified without half of the hassle or expense of the FST.

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

230 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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The engine from the new st is also available in the new shape mondeo so would probably be the best place to start looking. Tbh not really looked at a new mondeo from the point of comparing the engine mounts etc to the older shape but as a rule Ford tend not to change too much from model to model so may make it a 'bolt in' conversion, although i would imagine an aftermarket ecu would be an easier option than rewiring ur car to run it.

# Lord Lucan #

234 posts

214 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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_Lee_ said:
Waynester said:
[quote=# Lord Lucan #] go ST220 as this is the easiest option and definately will produce the goods easier than the ST engine
How's that? ST220 is approx 220bhp/207 ft Ib's +/- isn't it, and the Focus ST is approx the same at 222bhp/236 ft Ib's +/- & both FWD. Mondeo is also slightly heavier, 1506kg V 1317kg.

The focus is turbocharged, and with a nominal outlay with re-maps etc can reach 260+bhp, maybe more.

Sorry, just curious as to how the Mondy 220 produces the goods easier than the Focus ST engine?

No axe to grind as an ex ST-3 owner, as i would quite like a 220. I was just curious as to how the Mondeo produces the good easier?

Quite happy to be corrected if i have missed the point? wink
Lee

the point I was making was on installation mate as it would be easier to install than the 5 pot engine mountings and looming up as for tuning yep loads available for both never tinkered with them but for ease of install think the V6 would be a little easier to plonk in thats all

I would imagine the ST220 engine, is cheaper, easier to replace (no conversion) and easier to find in a scrap yard/recon.

Then add the fact that all of these costs have been drastically reduced and time saved the car can then be modified without half of the hassle or expense of the FST.

rsstman

1,918 posts

210 months

Friday 28th November 2008
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as the same 1.8 or 2.0 duratec engine slots straight into both the focus st and the mondeo st220 i would have thought the mounting points would all be the same. therefore the fst engine would be a better unit. please correct me if i am wrong.


Edited by rsstman on Wednesday 10th December 20:16