Bluefin / Dreamscience Chip

[Diablos-666]

Hi all, i will soon be a new owner of a very nice mk1 focus rs and was wondering which would be the better superchip.

The car is totally standard and i will be keeping it that way, i just want to unlock all of the horses under the bonnet.

Are these chips easy to install? When i say easy i mean just plug and play? I dont want to be taking the dash off or taking apart anything under the hood.

Cheers

Cliff

[AMST09]

Good to see you got hold of one

Going to look at one soon

[Diablos-666]

Yeah mate I can't wait. I only looked at 2. One from a dealer and one private.
Went for the private.
Hopefully getting it on the 30th. Said to the guy I want it serviced and I want to be there to ask the garage about the car before I buy it. Hopefully all is well, I'm sure it is as he has looked after it.

[reckless st]

check out dreamscience i,ve got an st running dreamscience five dif maps on one hand set just plug into obd port an away you go

[SoliD]

I know its a different car but I drive an ST220 and the difference between bluefin and Dreamscience is night and day, I bought my car with bluefin installed but felt it didnt offer too much except a slightly higher rev limiter. So a Dreamscience came up at a good price and I thought why the hell not. When installing it the midrange response was better and you could feel that the power was slightly higher as well as the extra customisation which better benefitted my contributing mods. If I was you I would go for the Dreamscience as I feel it is a more complete unit.

[Diablos-666]

I must admit I am swaying towards the dreamscience chip.
Is it as simple as plug and play then?
I assume the car already has a connection point ready?

Where snouts is it? I don't have the car yet so can't snoop around.

[neiljohnson]

Diablos-666 said:

I must admit I am swaying towards the dreamscience chip.
Is it as simple as plug and play then?
I assume the car already has a connection point ready?

Where snouts is it? I don't have the car yet so can't snoop around.

I have dreamscience on my rs its a very good bit of kit. You upload the program via the eobd socket which is below the steering wheel it takes around 5 mins to do and is very simple. It would be worth getting a deact pipe as well as the standard cat is very restrictive and will probably quickly be knackered once the car has been remapped as they run very rich at the top end. With these mods and a induction kit mine made 265 bhp now with a hybrid turbo it should be 300bhp running 1.6 bar of boost (made 280 at 1.2) its lots of fun

[Diablos-666]

neil - the only mod i would do is add the dreamscience chip but you have me concerned regarding the cat. I dont want to remove it as i cant me bothered to keep putting it back on come MOT time. Would you suggest just keeping the car standard then?

[ALY77]

You'd be better speaking to some of the RSOC guys through the club site. There is a guy that offers a "custom" map download that brings the best of the original base map (AE - No coughing at 5k revs) and most of the benefits of the Bluefin together in one.

It's also a damn site cheaper than BF or DS.

[neiljohnson]

Diablos-666 said:

neil - the only mod i would do is add the dreamscience chip but you have me concerned regarding the cat. I dont want to remove it as i cant me bothered to keep putting it back on come MOT time. Would you suggest just keeping the car standard then?

They run rich at the top end of the rev range no matter what way you have it even standard and thats bad for the cat, if you are ok with a set of spanners then its not hard to swap over once a year for the mot, unless you can find a friendly mot tester of course

[dazfocus18]

lol got 2 love the nice mot lol

[neiljohnson]

dazfocus18 said:

lol got 2 love the nice mot lol

They are out there

[AMST09]

Picked up mine yesterday with Bluefin on... comparing to a mates the boost seems to kick in lower down the rev range
No torque limiter in 1st and 2nd but still controlable

But obviously haven't driven it without it on

[neiljohnson]

AMST09 said:

Picked up mine yesterday with Bluefin on... comparing to a mates the boost seems to kick in lower down the rev range
No torque limiter in 1st and 2nd but still controlable

But obviously haven't driven it without it on

the bluefin still limits in 1st and 2nd but relaxes it from standard, did a 'performance comparison' against a friends one with bluefin mine was quicker with nothing but the dreamscience and deact

[Diablos-666]

anyone got a dreamscience chip to sell?

[neiljohnson]

Diablos-666 said:

anyone got a dreamscience chip to sell?

Normally a few on ebay welcome to the dark side

[Diablos-666]

Neil - if I do get a dreamscience do I need to make sure the previous owner has put his ecu back to standard first?

[neiljohnson]

Diablos-666 said:

Neil - if I do get a dreamscience do I need to make sure the previous owner has put his ecu back to standard first?

when you download the dreamscience map it locks the unit to the car until its returned to standard

[Diablos-666]

so if you buy one from e-bay how do you know if its been unlocked?

[neiljohnson]

Diablos-666 said:

so if you buy one from e-bay how do you know if its been unlocked?

you wont im afraid so you have to either trust the seller or collect it in person and make sure it works there and then