How much is a Puma without engine worth?
How much is a Puma without engine worth?
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Lucie W

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3,473 posts

208 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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My Puma needs a new engine (the guy who did the cambelt didn't do it properly and it broke the engine).

I'm wondering whether to just sell it at a big loss to someone looking for a project or to buy an engine and put it in (this won't cost much in labour; the guy who broke it should do it at minimal cost).

What do you reckon? It's a 2000 W black puma 1.4.

anonymous-user

80 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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The person who broke it is liable-get them to source & replace it! Would be worth more broken for parts otherwise.

Lucie W

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3,473 posts

208 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Dave_ST220 said:
The person who broke it is liable-get them to source & replace it! Would be worth more broken for parts otherwise.
He did it off the books for £60...I have no come back really. He did offer to buy it off me but isn't prepared to pay much for it, so that option is not viable.

Do you really think it would be worth £1k + in parts...I wouldn't think so.

yazza54

20,262 posts

207 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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What did the mechanic offer you?

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

225 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Why would anyone let the muppet that fked up the engine in the first place fit a replacement? He has already proved his lack of competence.

Lucie W

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3,473 posts

208 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Chris_w666 said:
Why would anyone let the muppet that fked up the engine in the first place fit a replacement? He has already proved his lack of competence.
He works full time at an official Ford dealer so he should know what he's doing. But you're right.

He offered £500 for it, which isn't worth it in my opinion.

yazza54

20,262 posts

207 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Lucie W said:
Chris_w666 said:
Why would anyone let the muppet that fked up the engine in the first place fit a replacement? He has already proved his lack of competence.
He works full time at an official Ford dealer so he should know what he's doing. But you're right.

He offered £500 for it, which isn't worth it in my opinion.
No, especially not considering he broke it in the first place!
Why does it need a new engine.... has it done more damage than just bent valves? Realistically regardless of how cheap it was I'd have thought any decent mechanic... infact any decent person, would admit fault and get it sorted for you.

Edited by yazza54 on Thursday 8th April 17:11

RB26DETT

2,519 posts

201 months

Thursday 8th April 2010
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Well two weeks ago i bought a oo 1.4 Puma the engine was fked but it drove home OK. The body is actually mint.

Cost:
Car €400
Engine €400
Fluids €100

Total €900

Saving over €1000.

But not many people would go to the trouble of getting an engine, so market is limited

Could you break it ??

maser_spyder

6,356 posts

208 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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There's an engine on ebay, in Bristol, guaranteed good for £225.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Puma-1-4-16-valve-Engin...

If you can get it picked up, and get it fitted cheaply, it's probably cheaper than messing around with your broken one.

This isn't the only one, there's a few on there available, not much more expensive than this one.

I have no idea what a 1.4 Puma is worth in good condition though, so no idea if it's worthwhile or not!

Rollcage

11,345 posts

218 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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What happened? I would guess he timed it up incorrectly - IIRC these engines use floating pulleys for the cams and crank, so it is vital the correct procedure is followed for installing the belt and getting the tension correct.

Somebody who works at a Ford dealer should know that though - he's got some cheek offering you £500 for the car. I'd be mortified if I was in his shoes, and doing my best to sort something for you.

fluffnik

20,156 posts

253 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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Lucie W said:
He offered £500 for it, which isn't worth it in my opinion.
He should be giving you £500 without taking the car...

He broke it, his bill.

ymwoods

2,194 posts

203 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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Tell him you accept his £500 but he aint touching the car. Otherwise your going to walk into his work and tell his buddies what he done whilst doing dodgy deals with their customers.

anonymous-user

80 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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Lucie W said:
Chris_w666 said:
Why would anyone let the muppet that fked up the engine in the first place fit a replacement? He has already proved his lack of competence.
He works full time at an official Ford dealer so he should know what he's doing. But you're right.

He offered £500 for it, which isn't worth it in my opinion.
Why does that not surprise me. £500 is a piss take, has someone who actually knows what they are doing looked at it? have you spoken to the dealer he works at to verify his competence & get a quote to have his "work" rectified? May make him think about footing the bill that you SHOULDN'T have to. tts who do things on the side when they do not know what they are doing annoy me somewhat wink

Lurking Lawyer

4,535 posts

251 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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Lucie W said:
He did it off the books for £60...I have no come back really.
whatever gives you that idea? Any work he charges for has to be of reasonable quality pursuant to the Sale and Supply of Goods Act.

Whether he has any money to settle a claim against him is another matter, of course.....

Edited by Lurking Lawyer on Friday 9th April 10:46

anonymous-user

80 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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Lurking Lawyer said:
Lucie W said:
He did it off the books for £60...I have no come back really.
whatever gives you that idea? Any work he charges for has to be of reasonable quality pursuant to the Sale and Supply of Goods Act.

Whether he has any money to settle a claim against him is another matter, of course.....

Edited by Lurking Lawyer on Friday 9th April 10:46
He's got £500 though wink That should get the OP a s/h lump at least.

Lucie W

Original Poster:

3,473 posts

208 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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Thanks for the advice, but I can't really just cause hassle with the guy just to get this Puma fixed. My boyfriend works at the dealer he works at one day a week, so giving grief to this guy would probably cause trouble with my boyfriend etc.

I think the best option is to get an engine and get someone else to put it in. Although I'll never get the money back that I've spent on the car, it'll minimise my losses.

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

225 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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Lucie W said:
Thanks for the advice, but I can't really just cause hassle with the guy just to get this Puma fixed. My boyfriend works at the dealer he works at one day a week, so giving grief to this guy would probably cause trouble with my boyfriend etc.

I think the best option is to get an engine and get someone else to put it in. Although I'll never get the money back that I've spent on the car, it'll minimise my losses.
I would hassle him if his workmanship broke my car.

maser_spyder

6,356 posts

208 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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Lucie W said:
Although I'll never get the money back that I've spent on the car, it'll minimise my losses.
Welcome to motoring!

wink

Lucie W

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208 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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maser_spyder said:
Lucie W said:
Although I'll never get the money back that I've spent on the car, it'll minimise my losses.
Welcome to motoring!

wink
If the car had just blown up of its own accord then it wouldn't bother me too much. It's just the fact that it's someone's fault, and there's not really much I can do about it.

Everyone is saying that I should demand the guy to sort it, tell his employer etc but it's really not worth the risk of my boyfriend losing his contract with the Ford dealer over one £1k car.

maser_spyder

6,356 posts

208 months

Friday 9th April 2010
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Lucie W said:
maser_spyder said:
Lucie W said:
Although I'll never get the money back that I've spent on the car, it'll minimise my losses.
Welcome to motoring!

wink
If the car had just blown up of its own accord then it wouldn't bother me too much. It's just the fact that it's someone's fault, and there's not really much I can do about it.

Everyone is saying that I should demand the guy to sort it, tell his employer etc but it's really not worth the risk of my boyfriend losing his contract with the Ford dealer over one £1k car.
Again, welcome to motoring.

Somebody jumped on the boot of my car one night (about the only night I've ever parked it in the road).

Don't want to lose my no claims bonus, but no fault of mine.

New boot - £3000, plus paint.

That's motoring I'm afraid.