How much is a Puma without engine worth?
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My Puma needs a new engine (the guy who did the cambelt didn't do it properly and it broke the engine).
I'm wondering whether to just sell it at a big loss to someone looking for a project or to buy an engine and put it in (this won't cost much in labour; the guy who broke it should do it at minimal cost).
What do you reckon? It's a 2000 W black puma 1.4.
I'm wondering whether to just sell it at a big loss to someone looking for a project or to buy an engine and put it in (this won't cost much in labour; the guy who broke it should do it at minimal cost).
What do you reckon? It's a 2000 W black puma 1.4.
Dave_ST220 said:
The person who broke it is liable-get them to source & replace it! Would be worth more broken for parts otherwise.
He did it off the books for £60...I have no come back really. He did offer to buy it off me but isn't prepared to pay much for it, so that option is not viable. Do you really think it would be worth £1k + in parts...I wouldn't think so.
Chris_w666 said:
Why would anyone let the muppet that f
ked up the engine in the first place fit a replacement? He has already proved his lack of competence.
He works full time at an official Ford dealer so he should know what he's doing. But you're right.
ked up the engine in the first place fit a replacement? He has already proved his lack of competence. He offered £500 for it, which isn't worth it in my opinion.
Lucie W said:
Chris_w666 said:
Why would anyone let the muppet that f
ked up the engine in the first place fit a replacement? He has already proved his lack of competence.
He works full time at an official Ford dealer so he should know what he's doing. But you're right.
ked up the engine in the first place fit a replacement? He has already proved his lack of competence. He offered £500 for it, which isn't worth it in my opinion.
Why does it need a new engine.... has it done more damage than just bent valves? Realistically regardless of how cheap it was I'd have thought any decent mechanic... infact any decent person, would admit fault and get it sorted for you.
Edited by yazza54 on Thursday 8th April 17:11
There's an engine on ebay, in Bristol, guaranteed good for £225.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Puma-1-4-16-valve-Engin...
If you can get it picked up, and get it fitted cheaply, it's probably cheaper than messing around with your broken one.
This isn't the only one, there's a few on there available, not much more expensive than this one.
I have no idea what a 1.4 Puma is worth in good condition though, so no idea if it's worthwhile or not!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Puma-1-4-16-valve-Engin...
If you can get it picked up, and get it fitted cheaply, it's probably cheaper than messing around with your broken one.
This isn't the only one, there's a few on there available, not much more expensive than this one.
I have no idea what a 1.4 Puma is worth in good condition though, so no idea if it's worthwhile or not!
What happened? I would guess he timed it up incorrectly - IIRC these engines use floating pulleys for the cams and crank, so it is vital the correct procedure is followed for installing the belt and getting the tension correct.
Somebody who works at a Ford dealer should know that though - he's got some cheek offering you £500 for the car. I'd be mortified if I was in his shoes, and doing my best to sort something for you.
Somebody who works at a Ford dealer should know that though - he's got some cheek offering you £500 for the car. I'd be mortified if I was in his shoes, and doing my best to sort something for you.
Lucie W said:
Chris_w666 said:
Why would anyone let the muppet that f
ked up the engine in the first place fit a replacement? He has already proved his lack of competence.
He works full time at an official Ford dealer so he should know what he's doing. But you're right.
ked up the engine in the first place fit a replacement? He has already proved his lack of competence. He offered £500 for it, which isn't worth it in my opinion.
ts who do things on the side when they do not know what they are doing annoy me somewhat 
Lucie W said:
He did it off the books for £60...I have no come back really.
whatever gives you that idea? Any work he charges for has to be of reasonable quality pursuant to the Sale and Supply of Goods Act.Whether he has any money to settle a claim against him is another matter, of course.....
Edited by Lurking Lawyer on Friday 9th April 10:46
Lurking Lawyer said:
Lucie W said:
He did it off the books for £60...I have no come back really.
whatever gives you that idea? Any work he charges for has to be of reasonable quality pursuant to the Sale and Supply of Goods Act.Whether he has any money to settle a claim against him is another matter, of course.....
Edited by Lurking Lawyer on Friday 9th April 10:46
That should get the OP a s/h lump at least.Thanks for the advice, but I can't really just cause hassle with the guy just to get this Puma fixed. My boyfriend works at the dealer he works at one day a week, so giving grief to this guy would probably cause trouble with my boyfriend etc.
I think the best option is to get an engine and get someone else to put it in. Although I'll never get the money back that I've spent on the car, it'll minimise my losses.
I think the best option is to get an engine and get someone else to put it in. Although I'll never get the money back that I've spent on the car, it'll minimise my losses.
Lucie W said:
Thanks for the advice, but I can't really just cause hassle with the guy just to get this Puma fixed. My boyfriend works at the dealer he works at one day a week, so giving grief to this guy would probably cause trouble with my boyfriend etc.
I think the best option is to get an engine and get someone else to put it in. Although I'll never get the money back that I've spent on the car, it'll minimise my losses.
I would hassle him if his workmanship broke my car. I think the best option is to get an engine and get someone else to put it in. Although I'll never get the money back that I've spent on the car, it'll minimise my losses.
maser_spyder said:
Lucie W said:
Although I'll never get the money back that I've spent on the car, it'll minimise my losses.
Welcome to motoring!
Everyone is saying that I should demand the guy to sort it, tell his employer etc but it's really not worth the risk of my boyfriend losing his contract with the Ford dealer over one £1k car.
Lucie W said:
maser_spyder said:
Lucie W said:
Although I'll never get the money back that I've spent on the car, it'll minimise my losses.
Welcome to motoring!
Everyone is saying that I should demand the guy to sort it, tell his employer etc but it's really not worth the risk of my boyfriend losing his contract with the Ford dealer over one £1k car.
Somebody jumped on the boot of my car one night (about the only night I've ever parked it in the road).
Don't want to lose my no claims bonus, but no fault of mine.
New boot - £3000, plus paint.
That's motoring I'm afraid.
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