st220 clutch

[cerdad]

anybody changed a clutch ,not prepared to pay ripoff garages

[HellDiver]

Subframe drop, engine down, gearbag off, 8 hours labour. Best price I got for mine was £360 and that was mate's rates. 4 different independent garages quoted between £700 and £850.

[cerdad]

Thanks for that ,i will diy it .

[HellDiver]

You've got ramps and engine crane then? You must drop the engine, the gearbox won't come off in situ.

[cerdad]

yes i have all the gear.

[neiljohnson]

If you have a ramp not as bad at it states as you can drop one side of the subframe & pull the box back just far enough to chamge the clutch

May need a dual mass flywheel as well which can be expensive though.

[cerdad]

Thankyou,its getting betterall the time

[Podie]

neiljohnson said:

If you have a ramp not as bad at it states as you can drop one side of the subframe & pull the box back just far enough to chamge the clutch

May need a dual mass flywheel as well which can be expensive though.

How come you need to replace the DMF?

I better start saving, mine's on the original clutch and getting close to 70k!

[neiljohnson]

Podie said:

neiljohnson said:

If you have a ramp not as bad at it states as you can drop one side of the subframe & pull the box back just far enough to chamge the clutch

May need a dual mass flywheel as well which can be expensive though.

How come you need to replace the DMF?

I better start saving, mine's on the original clutch and getting close to 70k!

Not always a definate to change the flywheel but it wears just like the rest of the clutch i have seen standard st220 clutches go beyound 100k but at those sort of miles i would advise changing the dmf as it will cost more to take the box out again to replace the flywheel if it starts knocking

Remeber also that if the dmf fails (not as common now & they normally knock like mad beforehand) it can do an huge amount of damage the worst ive seen was a St170 that without warning (according to the owner)went bang taking both the gearbox bellhousing & the block with it.

[Podie]

neiljohnson said:

Podie said:

neiljohnson said:

If you have a ramp not as bad at it states as you can drop one side of the subframe & pull the box back just far enough to chamge the clutch

May need a dual mass flywheel as well which can be expensive though.

How come you need to replace the DMF?

I better start saving, mine's on the original clutch and getting close to 70k!

Not always a definate to change the flywheel but it wears just like the rest of the clutch i have seen standard st220 clutches go beyound 100k but at those sort of miles i would advise changing the dmf as it will cost more to take the box out again to replace the flywheel if it starts knocking

Remeber also that if the dmf fails (not as common now & they normally knock like mad beforehand) it can do an huge amount of damage the worst ive seen was a St170 that without warning (according to the owner)went bang taking both the gearbox bellhousing & the block with it.

I see your logic.

Any thoughts on dropping the DMF for a single mass job?

[neiljohnson]

Podie said:

neiljohnson said:

Podie said:

neiljohnson said:

If you have a ramp not as bad at it states as you can drop one side of the subframe & pull the box back just far enough to chamge the clutch

May need a dual mass flywheel as well which can be expensive though.

How come you need to replace the DMF?

I better start saving, mine's on the original clutch and getting close to 70k!

Not always a definate to change the flywheel but it wears just like the rest of the clutch i have seen standard st220 clutches go beyound 100k but at those sort of miles i would advise changing the dmf as it will cost more to take the box out again to replace the flywheel if it starts knocking

Remeber also that if the dmf fails (not as common now & they normally knock like mad beforehand) it can do an huge amount of damage the worst ive seen was a St170 that without warning (according to the owner)went bang taking both the gearbox bellhousing & the block with it.

I see your logic.

Any thoughts on dropping the DMF for a single mass job?

Seen it done on many cars now Ford even do a kit for the transits not so sure if anyone does the St220 though tbh
On some cars i have converted it causes transmisson noise (sounds like the bearings are shot) & it can cause judder when slipping the clutch pulling away etc.

I see no real reason why you cant fit a solid flywheel but you would need to have a hunt around to see ahat would fit

[Podie]

neiljohnson said:

Podie said:

neiljohnson said:

Podie said:

neiljohnson said:

If you have a ramp not as bad at it states as you can drop one side of the subframe & pull the box back just far enough to chamge the clutch

May need a dual mass flywheel as well which can be expensive though.

How come you need to replace the DMF?

I better start saving, mine's on the original clutch and getting close to 70k!

Not always a definate to change the flywheel but it wears just like the rest of the clutch i have seen standard st220 clutches go beyound 100k but at those sort of miles i would advise changing the dmf as it will cost more to take the box out again to replace the flywheel if it starts knocking

Remeber also that if the dmf fails (not as common now & they normally knock like mad beforehand) it can do an huge amount of damage the worst ive seen was a St170 that without warning (according to the owner)went bang taking both the gearbox bellhousing & the block with it.

I see your logic.

Any thoughts on dropping the DMF for a single mass job?

Seen it done on many cars now Ford even do a kit for the transits not so sure if anyone does the St220 though tbh
On some cars i have converted it causes transmisson noise (sounds like the bearings are shot) & it can cause judder when slipping the clutch pulling away etc.

I see no real reason why you cant fit a solid flywheel but you would need to have a hunt around to see ahat would fit

Seem to recall there is someone who does one fo rthe ST220, and beleive that at leaston forum member has had it done.

As yet, I've not had a problem - so don't see a reason to change.

What would you expect the clutch to last on an ST220? (appreciate that's a "how long is a piece of string?" type question )

[neiljohnson]

Podie said:

neiljohnson said:

Podie said:

neiljohnson said:

Podie said:

neiljohnson said:

If you have a ramp not as bad at it states as you can drop one side of the subframe & pull the box back just far enough to chamge the clutch

May need a dual mass flywheel as well which can be expensive though.

How come you need to replace the DMF?

I better start saving, mine's on the original clutch and getting close to 70k!

Not always a definate to change the flywheel but it wears just like the rest of the clutch i have seen standard st220 clutches go beyound 100k but at those sort of miles i would advise changing the dmf as it will cost more to take the box out again to replace the flywheel if it starts knocking

Remeber also that if the dmf fails (not as common now & they normally knock like mad beforehand) it can do an huge amount of damage the worst ive seen was a St170 that without warning (according to the owner)went bang taking both the gearbox bellhousing & the block with it.

I see your logic.

Any thoughts on dropping the DMF for a single mass job?

Seen it done on many cars now Ford even do a kit for the transits not so sure if anyone does the St220 though tbh
On some cars i have converted it causes transmisson noise (sounds like the bearings are shot) & it can cause judder when slipping the clutch pulling away etc.

I see no real reason why you cant fit a solid flywheel but you would need to have a hunt around to see ahat would fit

Seem to recall there is someone who does one fo rthe ST220, and beleive that at leaston forum member has had it done.

As yet, I've not had a problem - so don't see a reason to change.

What would you expect the clutch to last on an ST220? (appreciate that's a "how long is a piece of string?" type question )

Have done them at anything from 30k to 140k it depends so much on the driver tbh i dont have a massive experiance with them as i work on all cars but in at least two ive done its been down to 5th to 2nd instead of 4th which tear the friction plate to pieces!

[Podie]

neiljohnson said:

Have done them at anything from 30k to 140k it depends so much on the driver tbh i dont have a massive experiance with them as i work on all cars but in at least two ive done its been down to 5th to 2nd instead of 4th which tear the friction plate to pieces!

Ouch!

[neiljohnson]

Podie said:

neiljohnson said:

Have done them at anything from 30k to 140k it depends so much on the driver tbh i dont have a massive experiance with them as i work on all cars but in at least two ive done its been down to 5th to 2nd instead of 4th which tear the friction plate to pieces!

Ouch!

Seems to be common with the 6 speed box although it tends to be new owners not used to it that do it on the plus side the engines always survive it so proves they are strong

[Podie]

neiljohnson said:

Podie said:

neiljohnson said:

Have done them at anything from 30k to 140k it depends so much on the driver tbh i dont have a massive experiance with them as i work on all cars but in at least two ive done its been down to 5th to 2nd instead of 4th which tear the friction plate to pieces!

Ouch!

Seems to be common with the 6 speed box although it tends to be new owners not used to it that do it on the plus side the engines always survive it so proves they are strong