Advice needed in purchasing a tuscan Red Rose!
Discussion
Looking at putting a deposit on a 2000(W) Silver Red rose Tuscan tomorrow. It has 17K on the clock, full TVR service history..... £32K
Basically is it is a good deal?
Any advice/pointers(to look for) would be greatly appriciated!!
Excuse the spelling, been in the pub as it is my B'day!!!
Basically is it is a good deal?
Any advice/pointers(to look for) would be greatly appriciated!!
Excuse the spelling, been in the pub as it is my B'day!!!
RR adds about 5-6k on the price of a car, 17k is high for W though isn't that low, FTVRSH is a plus.
Have a look at this site www.tvr-webmart.co.uk/ at the bottom of the page under Info and Resources there is a Real World Price Guide - always worth a look.....
Have a look at this site www.tvr-webmart.co.uk/ at the bottom of the page under Info and Resources there is a Real World Price Guide - always worth a look.....
To be honest it doesnt seem that expensive. Is it a dealer or private? If it is a dealer than it is certainly well priced - would recommend looking at the previous service records for the old owner (if not private) and calling them up - just to double check.
If it is private then you should have some room to negotitate. I think it is often over exaggerated the levels as to which the Tuscan has dropped to on price. Things have stabilised out at around the £30K mark and people are still getting pretty good money for 16" wheelers with no aircon.... so £32K is not that bad.
Silver colour is a touch dull, but should be a corker. If it is a dealer then ask all of the usual questions and ask for a written report. If it is private or non-TVR dealer then get a specialist to check it over. Would hate to think that you had to spend money on something that you just bought.
Oh, and 17K miles? That means that the service is coming soon - best put that into the budget.
Cheers,
Paul
If it is private then you should have some room to negotitate. I think it is often over exaggerated the levels as to which the Tuscan has dropped to on price. Things have stabilised out at around the £30K mark and people are still getting pretty good money for 16" wheelers with no aircon.... so £32K is not that bad.
Silver colour is a touch dull, but should be a corker. If it is a dealer then ask all of the usual questions and ask for a written report. If it is private or non-TVR dealer then get a specialist to check it over. Would hate to think that you had to spend money on something that you just bought.
Oh, and 17K miles? That means that the service is coming soon - best put that into the budget.
Cheers,
Paul
Paul,
Thanks for the advice!! It is from a private dealer.. However he seems to be more of an enthusist rather than a "dodgy" second hand dealer.
Oh and he is having the 18K service done for me, and is having the stonechips on the bonnet repaired too, oh and is giving me a decent trade in price on my motor!!!
It also has the aircon and the 18" rims!! Does that make it any better?
>> Edited by Lagoo on Friday 10th May 17:01
Thanks for the advice!! It is from a private dealer.. However he seems to be more of an enthusist rather than a "dodgy" second hand dealer.
Oh and he is having the 18K service done for me, and is having the stonechips on the bonnet repaired too, oh and is giving me a decent trade in price on my motor!!!
It also has the aircon and the 18" rims!! Does that make it any better?
>> Edited by Lagoo on Friday 10th May 17:01
Been looking at the same recently 32k seems pretty expensive for a 2000 car even being a RR, everone including the factory, several dealers and other owners advised me to stay well away of 2000 cars because of the residuals when I was looking I was going to pay 28ish for an 11,000 mile 2000 Starmist blue RR tuscan with air con and 18's. In the end coulndt bring myself to do it just seems to much money to risk untill they are completely sorted ,played it safe and bought one of the last chimaera 500's.
I am presuming it has the full warranty holdings warranty with it ?
I am presuming it has the full warranty holdings warranty with it ?
Good point about the warranty though - get yourself a good one (minimum) or two year waranty from Waranty Holdings (or similar) to cover yourself. Well worth the cover.
Mmm, residuals - it always comes back to this - lets be honest - who cares? If you are concerned about residual values and build quality buy a Boxster or 911 (Bennno can testify). You buy these things out of passion and expect to have niggles...
You have some cover with a dealer (not knowingly nicked) and it would be well worth getting an expert to look it over (either TVR dealer or well known specialist - there are a few). Cant promise that it is worth it, but like everything else you take a gamble.
For example spend £2.5K on a Citroen ZX TD with 136K on the clock. Massively over book and everyone said it was not worth £2K nevermind anything else. However, it just stood out as a good 'un. Now upto 153K miles and nothing spent on it - it is a good 'un. So judgement is worth something too - good cars are hard to find and when you get a good one, you'll pay over the odds for it....
If I were in the same position I would think long and hard, but give it some serious thought.
Oh, and dont consider one that doesnt have aircon or 18"'ers - even if you dont want them. Resale / trade values will hurt later - then again I would.... but I am stupid with cars...
Cheers,
Paul
Mmm, residuals - it always comes back to this - lets be honest - who cares? If you are concerned about residual values and build quality buy a Boxster or 911 (Bennno can testify). You buy these things out of passion and expect to have niggles...
You have some cover with a dealer (not knowingly nicked) and it would be well worth getting an expert to look it over (either TVR dealer or well known specialist - there are a few). Cant promise that it is worth it, but like everything else you take a gamble.
For example spend £2.5K on a Citroen ZX TD with 136K on the clock. Massively over book and everyone said it was not worth £2K nevermind anything else. However, it just stood out as a good 'un. Now upto 153K miles and nothing spent on it - it is a good 'un. So judgement is worth something too - good cars are hard to find and when you get a good one, you'll pay over the odds for it....
If I were in the same position I would think long and hard, but give it some serious thought.
Oh, and dont consider one that doesnt have aircon or 18"'ers - even if you dont want them. Resale / trade values will hurt later - then again I would.... but I am stupid with cars...
Cheers,
Paul
Paul thanks for the advice.
I spent the weekend looking at other Tuscan examples from dealers, and was generally disapointed at the standard (let alone the price )
some looked like they were on their last legs..
I have bitten the bullet and put the deposit down on the silver RR and feel confident that i have made the right decision (fingers crossed). Its having the service done at castle TVR and i have requested a written report, it has the warranty etc.
This is also a purchase of passion rather than residual values ( if i wanted that i would have kept the Audi S3 ) so am more than prepared to put up with the niggles!!!
I look forward to trouble free motoring and hope to see some of you around. Thanks for your help.
PS whats so wrong with the 2000 models, its had all the updates and recalls that were ever made?
I spent the weekend looking at other Tuscan examples from dealers, and was generally disapointed at the standard (let alone the price )
some looked like they were on their last legs.. I have bitten the bullet and put the deposit down on the silver RR and feel confident that i have made the right decision (fingers crossed). Its having the service done at castle TVR and i have requested a written report, it has the warranty etc.
This is also a purchase of passion rather than residual values ( if i wanted that i would have kept the Audi S3 ) so am more than prepared to put up with the niggles!!!
I look forward to trouble free motoring and hope to see some of you around. Thanks for your help.
PS whats so wrong with the 2000 models, its had all the updates and recalls that were ever made?
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My June 2001 (Y) RR is for sale at the TVR Centre, Barnet. Think it's up for £40K. Car is very well sorted with 7,000 miles.
Were they still making RRs then? I thought 'S's were being delivered before June 2001?
How much was your car new? 'cos I suspect a 10-15% discount for one year and 7,000 miles wouldn't be enough to temp many buyers.
I know someone in my villiage with one.. he's been a TVR man for years (S, Griff and Chim), however he's not too pleased with it on the whole.. He's now done 10K in it and the engine's leaking oil like a god'un... somehow it seems that its managed to contaminate one of the front brakes with the oil too and gave him a lovely spin at the weekend...
I think given the choice, he'd go and buy something else with a Rover V8 in it...
Just my 2p based on a conversation in the Pub..
Cheers
Matt.
I think given the choice, he'd go and buy something else with a Rover V8 in it...
Just my 2p based on a conversation in the Pub..
Cheers
Matt.
I wouldn't write off the early cars, I had one
of the first tuscans and got it sorted and it was
great (W reg). Better than the second one (X reg). The
S (Y reg) has been the best for little problems but
the only one to need engine work.
The big difference has been the suspension, personally
I thought the early cars with the soft suspension were
better than the ones that stiffened the rear.
Admittedly it bottomed the suspension with the boot
loaded and two up at speed over bumps. Neither was
very stable above 150mph and high speed braking had
the back very light, but the S and I suspect RR are
much more sorted.
of the first tuscans and got it sorted and it was
great (W reg). Better than the second one (X reg). The
S (Y reg) has been the best for little problems but
the only one to need engine work.
The big difference has been the suspension, personally
I thought the early cars with the soft suspension were
better than the ones that stiffened the rear.
Admittedly it bottomed the suspension with the boot
loaded and two up at speed over bumps. Neither was
very stable above 150mph and high speed braking had
the back very light, but the S and I suspect RR are
much more sorted.
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