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redeye

Original Poster:

626 posts

256 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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just came back from turkey nice two weeks away to find a intention to prosecute on the door mat,
doing 57 in a 30 last coviction was 07 a cu80 3 points,
what do you think possable ban ??????

Tuscan Wil

422 posts

215 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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If I remember correctly, it takes 3 years to clear your points in your license.

Are they taking you to Court? My mate did over 100mph in the middle of the night on M1, pleaded guilty with a humble statement. The judge let him off with 6 points and a £500 fine. It depends on the circumstance of the your speeding I guess.

athomp04

177 posts

197 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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It all depends upon the exact timescale of your last offence, it will only stay valid for for four years so may well have been cleared. If that is the case hopefully you will get away with a hefty fine and nine points.

Tuscan Wil

422 posts

215 months

Friday 19th August 2011
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athomp04 said:
It all depends upon the exact timescale of your last offence, it will only stay valid for for four years so may well have been cleared. If that is the case hopefully you will get away with a hefty fine and nine points.
I just checked, the endorsement stays on the license is 4 years, but only 3 years period for totting up the points.

www.pepipoo.com/Penalty_points.htm


Hoover.

5,993 posts

271 months

Saturday 20th August 2011
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Terry... all can say is ... whoops .....

not seen you for some time fella,hope all goes your way and no walking involved ... thumbup

Jammy Dodger

2,449 posts

184 months

Saturday 20th August 2011
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Aren't all speeding notices headed "Notice of Intention to Prosecute" (or words to that effect)?

You sure you haven't got a 3pts and fine / speed awareness course option ?

Sadly, i have some considerable experience of such notices....

sibo99

227 posts

197 months

Saturday 20th August 2011
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it will ask what you want to plead guilty or go to court to plead not guilty.
if you plead guilty id guess ud get 4-6 points and fined £ 250 -450.

i was caught doing 92mph on a dual carriage. limit was 60mph for the van i was driving.
i recieved a court letter asking to plead guilty or not.
i admitted it and recieved 6 points and £400 fine. wks

if your doing 1/3 above the limit the cop/speed camera fine is meant to go to the courts

AllezWasps

590 posts

195 months

Saturday 20th August 2011
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General rule of thumb (obviously take heed of the word 'general')....30mph over the limit means a ban but with good mitigation (e.g clean licence/ no previous convictions you might survive a ban if you are slightly over the 30mph 'watershed')

Bottom line is, it depends on the circumstances. Speeding in a 30 area tends to be frowned upon more because by the very nature of the fact it's a 30 zone, it means typically, it's a built up area. So a magistrate may take into account time of day, road conditions, proximity of schools etc etc.

An early guilty plea may also benefit you as it will be deemed not to waste the court's time by having to have it listed.

It's difficult to predict how many points you will pick up. I would guess (for what it's worth!) between 6-9. Your points last for 3 years.

redeye

Original Poster:

626 posts

256 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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thanks every one for there input ,
think i might get legal help, cant lose licence
hi hoover im doing well other than this slip up, hows your car , hope to c u soon
terry

gerradiuk

1,669 posts

224 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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Jammy Dodger said:
Aren't all speeding notices headed "Notice of Intention to Prosecute" (or words to that effect)?

You sure you haven't got a 3pts and fine / speed awareness course option ?

Sadly, i have some considerable experience of such notices....
Jammy I believe there are no longer any speed awareness course's due to cut back's .rolleyes


Jammy Dodger

2,449 posts

184 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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gerradiuk said:
Jammy I believe there are no longer any speed awareness course's due to cut back's .rolleyes
may depend on the county then - I'm attending one tomorrow !

Mattt

16,664 posts

247 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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Doubt you would be offered a course for that far over the limit, they are normally for minor infringements.

nawarne

3,178 posts

289 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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I did a Ride Drive course back in May. The 'assessor' was ex-Class 1 .....and still keeps in touch with the local Traffic boys in Hampshire.

During the day, ha said that in the main the 'watershed' for a prosecution is plus 2 mph and plus 10% - so for m-ways that means 79 mph. However, he did qualify that statement that if the driver was behaving/driving like a total eejit, then there would not be any leeway.

So, I guess as you were a fair bit over the watershed, it will be points and a fine.
Nick

Magic919

14,485 posts

230 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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You normally get an S172 first. Post this in the speed, plod and the law section and you'll get some more accurate replies.

666 SVT

1,052 posts

269 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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I was copped doing 86mph on the slip road of the M6 at Carlisle a couple of weeks back and was offered a
speed awareness course. The stuff came through a couple of days ago and I can book one near me.
Fee varies from £69-£90 depending on where you take it and the course lasts approx 4 hours.
I already have six points so this option was very welcome.

Clippy

196 posts

212 months

Sunday 21st August 2011
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This might be useful, but it won't cheer you up: -

http://www.cprsp.gov.uk/resources/res.aspx?p=/Publ...

The ACPO guidelines for a summons to court are 50 mph in a 30 limit...

Sorry...


julianc

1,984 posts

288 months

Monday 22nd August 2011
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There are many threads on SP&L with similar figures to yours - I suggest having a look there. Usually not good for that far over the limit in a 30, I'm afraid......

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

239 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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gerradiuk said:
Jammy I believe there are no longer any speed awareness course's due to cut back's .rolleyes
Totally incorrect, indeed they've increased the 'eligability' band from the 10% + 1.9mph to 10mph +1.9mph.

So anything up to 42 in a 30 will get you an offer of a 'Speed Awareness Course' that is completely classroom based as they no longer take you out onto the roads for an assessment.

Worth doing actually as it acts as a bit of a brush-up.


(...and yes I did one about four weeks ago)

Magic919

14,485 posts

230 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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It's +10% +9mph.

Jammy Dodger

2,449 posts

184 months

Wednesday 24th August 2011
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V8 GRF said:
Totally incorrect, indeed they've increased the 'eligability' band from the 10% + 1.9mph to 10mph +1.9mph.

So anything up to 42 in a 30 will get you an offer of a 'Speed Awareness Course' that is completely classroom based as they no longer take you out onto the roads for an assessment.

Worth doing actually as it acts as a bit of a brush-up.


(...and yes I did one about four weeks ago)
Yup - did one on Monday and the "trainer" confirmed they are increasing the "offering"

And it was worthwhile - beneficial way beyond the fact of avoiding the points