Strange tyre question
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Don1

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16,770 posts

237 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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OK, currently I am running some really strange sizes on my car (they came with it) - all 4 tyres are 255 30 19 on the 'special' Team Dynamics wheel (I believe - could be wrong on the manufacturer).

See pic.


The question is... can I put other size rubber on these rims? As in 265 section, because it will give me a much better choice of rubber. I certainly don't want to 'stretch' or anything else...

Many thanks

rico23

362 posts

189 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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I saw a Tamora today with those wheels and it was running 265/30 at the back. Looked very wide for a Tamora.

Chilliman

12,419 posts

190 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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The tyres look like rubber bands eek Don't know what OE was on the Sag but I can't believe you'll get optimum handling from such a low profile tyre, certainly on the road anyway....

haircutmike

22,459 posts

233 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Chilliman said:
The tyres look like rubber bands eek Don't know what OE was on the Sag but I can't believe you'll get optimum handling from such a low profile tyre, certainly on the road anyway....
+1.

The ride must be awfull!

Maybe find a friendly indie and see if they have a spare set you can try.

Don1

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16,770 posts

237 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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We are not discussing the ride (although the handling, response and ride is far superior to any standard suspensioned Sag I have ever been in - this has been echoed by professionals who have driven this car...)

So it's possible to have 265 on the rear? Interesting.... thank you.

Chilliman

12,419 posts

190 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Don1 said:
We are not discussing the ride (although the handling, response and ride is far superior to any standard suspensioned Sag I have ever been in - this has been echoed by professionals who have driven this car...)

So it's possible to have 265 on the rear? Interesting.... thank you.
Well excuse us for trying to be helpfull. You clearly have a superior handling Sag and we are not worthy to comment. Apologies for posting on your thread.

Chimpandtonic

9,637 posts

208 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Are the tyres painted on those rims?

Must me an absolute death trap.

Sorry couldn't resist it roflroflroflroflroflroflroflrofl

steveT350C

6,728 posts

190 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Chilliman said:
Don1 said:
We are not discussing the ride (although the handling, response and ride is far superior to any standard suspensioned Sag I have ever been in - this has been echoed by professionals who have driven this car...)

So it's possible to have 265 on the rear? Interesting.... thank you.
Well excuse us for trying to be helpfull. You clearly have a superior handling Sag and we are not worthy to comment. Apologies for posting on your thread.
+1

Don1, a smile goes a long way, although I fear you have forgotten how to smile frown



Edited by steveT350C on Saturday 3rd March 22:42

haircutmike

22,459 posts

233 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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steveT350C said:
+1

Don1, a smile goes a long way, although I fear you have forgotten how to smile frown



Edited by steveT350C on Saturday 3rd March 22:42
+ Everyone, also the rims look soooo Essex, sad I know but true.

Laser Sag

2,860 posts

272 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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What size tyre you can put on the rim will be dependant on the wheel width, at 8 inches I would think no at 8.5 should be ok at 9 plus no problem.

So anyway Don1 what suspension are you running that makes yours so much better than any of the others?

Chimpandtonic

9,637 posts

208 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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My ride rolls on these babies.



Handles like she's on rails.

I mean snails.............

haircutmike

22,459 posts

233 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Maybe it's the wine but that made I larf!

Chimpandtonic

9,637 posts

208 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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haircutmike said:
Maybe it's the wine but that made I larf!
All it takes is a few pissed up Chimp owners on a Saturday night to mess up a perfectly reasonable post from a Sag owner.

He must love us curse

rofl

haircutmike

22,459 posts

233 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Chimpandtonic said:
All it takes is a few pissed up Chimp owners on a Saturday night to mess up a perfectly reasonable post from a Sag owner.

He must love us curse



rofl
I'm sure you're right Dave, I'm just hoping it's not "man love" smile!

Don1

Original Poster:

16,770 posts

237 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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rofl

Sorry chaps, yes, bang to rights, there really should have been a smilie there - accept my apologies?

My wheels (not the aesthetics!), have been discussed a few times with racers (there is a very nice chap on here who runs hill-climbs and is insistent on the 16" wheel), and others besides.

For what-ever reason, these wheel should be terrible. They really, really should destroy the handling. They don't - they massively enhance it. There is so much 'more' to the feel of the car - feedback, turn-in, and general conversation through the wheel. (To give the Chim drivers an idea, I ran a Chim with spiders and Nitrons as my first TVR, overlapping this Sag by a few years). For a charity day last year I put on the spiders from my Tamora, and the car felt so nervous and darty (in a bad way) compared to what it normally runs.

I know this flies in the face of normal convention, but this is what is happening, and it has been echoed by two very different TVR garages in the South (or rather their technical bods).

Strange but true... smile (See, a smilie!)

So back to topic.... does anyone know for sure about running different section tyres on these rims?


blueg33

46,345 posts

253 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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There are guides online showing the tyre width range for different rims. As to section you should try and keep the overall diameter within two percent if you want the speedo to be correct

Laser Sag

2,860 posts

272 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Don1 said:
So back to topic.... does anyone know for sure about running different section tyres on these rims?
Max tyre size for width of rim according to a few sites on the wonder web is 8 inch 245mm, 8.5 inch 255mm, 9 inch 265mm and 9.5 275mm. As for the profile rating that is going to more dependant on the wheel arch as you go wider the curve of the arch tends to drop towards the ground so you might end up with rubbing, would think you would have to stay with 30 profile to stand a chance of being OK.

Don1

Original Poster:

16,770 posts

237 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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You know what, I hadn't even considered that there would be anything out there like that (or this http://www.kouki.co.uk/utilities/visual-tyre-size-...

Really useful - many thanks Blue and Laser!

Hoover.

5,993 posts

271 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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as said above...... the tyre width will be dependant on the wheel width initially, however generally if you want to keep the same rolling radius you will need a lower profile tyre as well..... there could also be an issue on clearance of the body/chassis

7 TVR

2,589 posts

197 months

Sunday 4th March 2012
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Don1 i am more interested by the fact you run the same size tyre on the front as you do on the back? what width are your rims? are the the same front and back?
+Peter you chimp boys need supervision